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Fruity Grandiose Visions Again?

Posted August 12th, 2011 by Alan Sato
In Reference to:
Staying Awake in the Face of Fear and Uncertainty

I would like to see an interviewer that isn't so much a "yes" man and more of a debater or challenger of Salzman's ideas.  Sometimes I think Salzsman goes over the fruity edge and has ridiculous grandiose visions that may be partially right, but could be flawed.  I'd like to see them questioned and alternate views posited.  I like his point of view, but would like more views than just his.

 

I really liked the part about letting the pain body arise.  I'd like to mention shadow here.  If your fear is a result of a shadow, then all the gestalt in the world will not heal the fear, since fear is not the root of the problem, but a result of the shadow.  This is something that Ken Wilber emphasizes a lot.  However, a spiritual practice in my experience has helped me to accept the fear and to trust in the greater awareness, displacing the need for social confirmation.

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Give it up

Posted August 14th, 2011 by Bill Kilburg

Like what you shared Alan regarding fear and the shadow.

My own breakthrough with fear came when I gave up the wrongness and resistence to it and simple chose to experience it. Which when you come down to it  is a good practice for a life that may be lived with some peace and serenity.

The shadow in my experience is simple the result of not knowing who we really are as Infinity or said another way as everything/nothing.