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Global Warming Skeptics with Green Centers of Gravity

The Green stage of development and its association to green environmentalism and left-wing politics has become so profoundly ingrained and mutually reinforced that I think it may be wise to step back and really examine the validity of this assumption or claim.  Is it always the case that a person whose center of gravity is Green will always gravitate toward the left or agree with the scientific consensus on global climate change?  The more I study the topic, the more I encounter people who do not fit this particular stereotype: Green Republicans, for example.  Or Green global warming skeptics and deniers.  And in truth, most Greens seem no different from Orange centers-of-gravity in terms of their consumerism and orientation on material acquisition.  Not to say that it is bad to want to acheive material success but it seems to me that Greens differ very little from Orange in terms of these aspects of the mental-rational structure, which is object-oriented and externally-related, after all.  Of course, there are the more obvious or rather subtle differences in that Green is the stage at which one becomes multiperspectival, more worldcentric in terms of equal rights for all people, and ecologically aware.  However, I am no longer convinced that simply because one is Green, that one is automatically an environmentalist or a bleeding-heart liberal. 

If Green is truly a stage or structure that is ontologically real and universally experienced at some point along the development of consciousness, then it stands to reason that not all people at this particular stage would necessarily fit the common cultural stereotypes or notions of what it means to be "Green."  Republicanism and environmentalism, after all, are neither universally experienced nor exclusive to a particular stage of development but are cultural artifacts more than anything else.  Thus, while Republicanism and environmentalism are social movements or social constructs, the stages themselves are empirically or intersubjectively verifiable and real.

With that in mind, I would like to explore a curious form of anti-environmentalism or global warming skepticism: the Green form.  But before we can define the Green aspects of this anti-environmentalism, it is helpful to differentiate the characteristics of Green global warming skepticism from other stage-structural forms of global warming skepticism.

People are generally opposed to the scientific consensus on climate change for various reasons.  However, generally speaking, the reasons for taking on a contrarian position vary widely depending on the stage or structure.

Magenta:

A person at magenta is either an infant or is struggling for physical survival.  In the former case, the pre-person would not be self-aware enough to take on a position.  In the latter case, the person, if adult, may be starving, in a war-torn zone, homeless, abused, physically ill, or is otherwise simply struggling to survive.  I have been thrust back at this stage a few times in my early 20s and know that when I've regressed to this particular level, environmental concerns are the least of my concerns; I am merely struggling for physical survival and will do whatever it takes to stay alive.  Even kill the environment, if I must, for self-survival.  In some sense, many people throughout the world are faced with this very situation.  I think that in truth, if the saying, "Save the planet, go kill yourself" were really an option for me, however--and if I knew that my sacrifice would really make a difference in future generations of humans on the planet (especially my son), I would do it in a heartbeat.

Red:

I don't know.  I have never encountered a Red center-of-gravity who is self- or other-aware enough to take on any position, whether for or against.  But I will venture a guess to say that people at Red centers-of-gravity do not reflect on the world around them enough to have an opinion due to a lack of development and egocentric and narcissistic orientations.  This would be primarily the category of children.  I certainly wasn't ecologically-aware or concerned as a child.

Amber/Blue:

This would be the first stage at which one is capable of taking on a stance of any kind on such an issue.  It will not be an individual stance based on personal reflection of the world around them, but will instead be an ethnocentric stance in strict conformity with whatever stance other people in one's mythic membership defines as truth.  70% of the world is at this stage which is why I feel strongly that mitigating climate change will not occur until ecology can be brought in the heart of various theologies.  This is the only way to persuade Southern Baptists in South Georgia, for example.  And this is where much of the attention and focus should be. 

In the United States, it means bringing the ecological movement of stewardship to the level of evangelical.  Interestingly, an evangelical ecological movement emerged a few years ago (around 2005) based around stewardship but as I understand now, there is an oppositional evangelical movement that is offering a message of stewardship but one that is opposed to the scientific consensus or to environmental policies.  But generally speaking, a global warming skeptic at amber is not a true "skeptic" in the scientific sense because a healthy dose of rationalism is required for skepticism.  It will therefore be not global warming skepticism but global warming denialism and absolutist instead, opposing the scientific consensus because he or she opposes science, period.  Not because s/he understands science--but purely because his/her momma, daddy, kinfolks, and Bible told them so; thus perceiving the whole issue negatively as a threat to their personal salvation and to their ethnocentric and mythical worldview.  Thus, it does little good to try to convince someone at amber of the truth of climate change based on ice core samples dating back to 800,000 years.  Especially when the earth is only 6,000 years old and created in one day by God.  Approaching ecology on this level must be oriented on religion and moral obligation rather around science.  In the evangelical Christian standpoint, it must be based around the Christian concept of stewardship.


Orange:

This is the first worldcentric stage of true I-awareness and ego-formation.  It is thus the first stage at which a person can truly think as an individual ego-consciousness.  And it is really the first stage when the science behind climate change will be taken into perspective.  It will be in third-person singular so more absolutist and less global or systemic than the more multiperspectival and relativistic green.  And because orange is the first phase of Gebser's mental-rational structure, it will also be object-oriented, goal-oriented, success-oriented, I-oriented, and more materialistic and objective than mythical amber. 

A global warming skeptic at this stage will therefore be opposed because his or her individualism and lack of multiple perspectives prevents a grasp of LR implications of climate change.  Because of this general lack of LR, systemic or global implications of climate change, material success, self, self-image, and object-orientation will predominate and will dispose him or her toward opposing any and all regulation policies limiting his or her material growth, freedom, and personal success, but may not necessarily be opposed to the science unless he or as developed some sort of specialization or expertise. 

Scientists stuck at orange will tend to be overfocused and overspecialized in their particular field of inquiry to be cognizant of the multiple interconnections and dimensions affecting climate change issues. Climate change issues at orange must therefore address personal success and individual freedom while challenging individuals to broaden their horizons by studying these issues rationally from a climate science standpoint rather than from strictly (x) standpoint (whereby "x" = area of interest or pet concern, be it economics, politics, religion, biology, history, Fox News Network, Wall Street Journal, and so on).  Because while all of these "x" areas may offer some insight into climate change, they will also only address a particular aspect of it.  They also have a tendency to orient the individual toward ideological or political concerns of climate change having little to do with the reality of it, while giving them a false sense of authority or knowledge on the issues. 

The reason I think that focusing more on the science aspect of climate change is better at Orange is because weighing the scientific evidence is absolutely critical before one can truly make a value judgment on it based on political ideology.  Especially if one's politics is already skewed toward the free-market capitalism of the right.  Without the science portion, one's perspective on climate change will most assuredly be skewed toward the libertarian or free-market version of "climate change" without knowing its full implications in the scientific sense.  Thus fall victim to such pseudo-scientific claims made in the Senate Minority Report on climate change without being aware.
 
Green:

I'm not suggesting that Brian is "Green," but many things he says reminds me of Green: 

I do not like the use of the word conspiracy. Since so many have different ideas about it. Major events in history have been shown to be REAL conspiracies. History is filled with them. Please suspend judgement and ask me for my perspective. I am trying to have a dialog on the topic, And feel no need to figure you out so I do not have to look at what yor saying.I have pointed out in my posts the need to understand the elite to understand this topic. How many do know about the elite? So far no one has expressed anything about it on this post. So I am pointing to info on the elite. I have seen the term Elite used alot in Integral. Like in this audio with Paul Ray on cultural creatives done with Jim Garrison.

I suspect that there are some Green shadows lurking that some people need to try own, rather than trying to project it onto others and dissociate from Green.   And yes, there is a Green form of global warming skepticism.  Not all Greens are favorably disposed towards the idea of environmentalism.   In fact, many who are Green may even be anti-environmental but will insist that they are "environmentalists, but not global warming alarmists."  Much like insisting that "I'm spiritual, but not religious."  Which I am as well but it takes a green consciousness to really recognize such a thing in the first place..  The only thing about a Green saying such a thing is that they will tend to experiment with many different forms of spirituality or fall sway to any form of conspiracy theories in search of higher self while not necessarily being able to differentiate and evaluate lower from higher forms of spirituality.

The idea that the scientific consensus or Jim Garrison are "elitist" represents a Green pathology.  When taken to extremes, it can turn to a conspiracy theory.  Greens, after all, are multiperspectival but are generally opposed to the concept of hierarchy or elites wishing equal opportunity for everyone.

Here are more of descriptions of Green global warming skepticism.  They are not in reference specifically to Green, but the skeptics described reminded me automatically of Green.  I will have to locate the links and insert it here:

They believed that "global warming" was nothing but a social construction — more like a myth invented by a community than a fact like a rock you could hold in your hand. After all, the critics pointed out, communities of scientists had often held mistaken views, and then changed their collective minds. You couldn't trust a clique of professionals, they warned, whose very social cohesion might perpetuate the error of a shared opinion. Hadn't experts once agreed to deny that greenhouse warming was possible? Hadn't experts, as recently as the 1970s, warned of a new ice age?

...Certainly in a restricted sense one could call the resulting understanding of climate change a product of human society, or as some would say, a social construct. Scientists themselves sometimes spoke in such terms, describing their understanding of climate as a stout edifice constructed from the countless mutually supporting observations and calculations.

...But what does it mean to say understanding was "constructed"? That is misleading language, no better than talking of scientific "advance." Scientists were not a crew laying bricks according to an architect's plans. The terms used in the previous paragraph come from traditional models for the scientific research process, relying on metaphors drawn from classical or even preclassical mechanics — a forward push or "advance," a "construction," a process where ideas are swayed by "pressures" or "influences," where observations "support" one another, and so forth. This language sounds like it means something, but it doesn't really.

...We should not call it "nothing but" a social product. Future climate change in this regard is like electrons, galaxies, and many other things not immediately accessible to our senses. All these concepts emerged from a vigorous struggle of ideas, evolving through encounters with experiments, observations, and rival hypotheses. Eventually most people were persuaded to agree that the risk of global warming was real, regardless of the social process that had led to the conclusion.

 

Some other examples:

Earl:

 

. . . .They’re more and more frequently becoming the party of rationalization and denial, and with a kind of “moral relativism” becoming prominent that would not have been associated with “conservatism” in the past. They fall back on “respecting different opinions” and “different points of view” in their arguments all the time when they start hitting factual issues where the real world isn’t validating their policies and views.

Deniers tend towards denying that there is an objective “out there” reality or at least believing or asserting that that a meaningful reality does not contain probabilities in it....The deniers’ theory of science would actually prohibit that there would ever be an meaningful climate science because of the multi-factorial and “noisy” nature of the climate system. They are holding climate science responsible when in fact it is the nature of the object of study, the climate, that is the source of the uncertainty.


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Myth: Democrats support good climate policy; Republicans oppose it

I have some nice things to say about Republicans, but none of it will be evident until the very last line. 
 
Not to suggest that you are a Republican, Bernhard (you're not even American!).  But your views on climate change do not appear to be typical of most Europeans I've encountered.  While you strike me as integral and oriented on wholeness, your stance on climate change relies too heavily on a single source of questionable value, so is partial.
 
 
Well, let's see:
 
Sometimes I don’t lift a finger to stop climate change because I don’t drive a SUV (I just hate them). I drive a relatively low-carbon Toyota Corolla and I like to cycle.
 
Excellent.

There were no times in history where climate change wasn't happening.
 
True enough so far as it goes...
 
I assume you mean "climate change" (by natural variations) and not "anthropogenic climate change," which has not been happening since time immemorial as the statement might suggest. 
 
Otherwise, you are capitally correct to point out that climate has always changed changed due to natural variations (i.e., Milankovitch cycles, vegetation and oxygenation, natural greenhouse gases, oceans, precipitation, weather patterns, distance of the moon, volcanoes, etc.)
 
Current climate change has to do with human activity (but I am not sure).
 
The latest IPCC assessment, based on thousands of peer-reviewed studies, reports that human action is "very likely" to be the cause of the current global warming, meaning greater than 90%. 
 
An approach based on an Integral framework would be to adopt the highest stance in every quadrant, zone, or methodology.  For instance: in matters of climate science, it is best to consult the IPCC rather than economists or statasticians.  As most smart people do, Integral defers to the collective wisdom of leading scientists in matters of a scientific kind, leading economists in matters of an economic kind, leading presidents in matters of a presidential kind, and so on. 
 
Unless one has a specialty in the field or is trying to re-invent the wheel, it is best to trust the collective wisdom of experts who are relevant to the field.  This doesn't mean that one can be 100% certain that the experts are telling the absolute truth.  However, when a consensus is reached among a respected panel of experts that states definitively that more than a "90% probability exists" that something is very likely, it is reasonable, if not integral, to go with "very likely" and to discard the "not sure" as obsolete thinking, especially when 97% of all climate scientists agree and have discarded "not sure" as obsolete, on which the consensus, and decision of the panel of experts is based.
 
"Not sure" could be in reference to any probability between 0-99%.   While such uncertainty was once existed among climate scientists, it is no longer current.  So instead of saying, "But I am not sure," a more integral approach would say, "The current global warming is very likely caused by human activity, meaning over 90%."
 
And considering that "very likely" is not yet a 100% certainty, an environmental skeptic can agree with what the science says without having to comprimise on his or her commitment to scientific or amateur skepticism.
 
Climate change can have good and bad effects, it depends on its extent. Very strong climate change is very bad but I don’t believe it will occur.
 
Climate change can be a good or bad thing if left to natural forces and variations.  All things considered, however, an Integral perspective would have to jettison the idea that human-caused climate change can have good effects.  Of course, "good" is a subjective and relative term but has limited value when confined to partialities such as future prospects of growing grapes in Sweden or to vacationing in a more temperate spot such as Siberia's drunken forests.  Integral is not confined to partialities but it is a perception of the whole.
 
The IPCC conclusion in 2007 is that the consequences of unmitigated climate change are bad elsewhere but effect people in different ways in different parts of the world, but mostly bad.  More recently, numerous scientists are coming out to say that the consequences are "very bad."  The leading spokesperson for the IPCC confirms this as well, confirming that the IPCC had underestimated to be conservative, and warns that governments have four years left to agree on implementing policies on a global scale to be effective in time.   
 
However, if you do not believe that sudden catastrophic climate change can occur, you either have faith in humanity to stop it (bless your soul) or you think that the experts themselves are mistaken in their view.  In which case, you are making an expert judgment based on an independent conclusion of a scientific matter. Please clarify.
 
 
I am quite sure that the markets will sabotage it unless we develop efficient alternative energies.
 
 
 
Based on most climate experts, all efforts will be sabotaged unless we address the the more immediate concern of CO2 reduction. 
 
By "the markets," are you referring to free market capitalism, or to the carbon market created by cap and trade?
 
It is not possible to stop it but perhaps to mitigate it. I guess mitigation will cost less as it would just to live with it, but here I am absolutely not sure, I rely on Lomborg who is statistician at an economic school.
 
Yes, it is a safe bet that mitigation will cost less than dealing with it.
 
An Integral approach would be to include scientific opinion in addition to the Stern Review into an Integral framework, since Stern is the most recognized and most comprehensive economic study on climate change done to date.  It is far more comprehensive than the Copenhagen Consensus, and less ideologically-driven.
 
However, in light of more recent studies done on positive feedbacks and changes that are outpacing predictions made by most computer climate models, many economists consider Stern's report to now be obsolete and too conservative.  Stern's recommendation for a 1% of world GDP investment of mitigation (via cap and trade) has since been revised in 2008 to 2%. 
 
Yet in spite of the inadequacies above, compared to Stern, the Copenhagen Consensus appears to be even more so.  In all, it appears to be only a partial perspective composed only of economists who were hand-selected by Lomborg on the basis of their unfavorable opinion toward Kyoto, who get together an provide an economic forecast which is now considered obsolete by many economists.  Furthermore, it is based on scientific data that is considered obsolete by most scientists. This is not integral.
 
The Copenhagen Consensus is criticized for using economists who do not specialize in development.  In addition, it is criticized for placing climate change, the most serious concern according to most scientists and many other economists, at the bottom of the list of priorities because it considers mitigation too expensive to tackle and better spent on other projects.  According to the Stern report, a minimum of 1% investment of global GDP is necessary and the cost of 1% is preferable to the cost of 20-30% loss of global GDP (of $54 trillion) with no agreement.  Carbon tax may or may not be more effective as Lomborg (I suspect), Exxon CEO, and James Hansen contend, but it does not appear to be politically realistic to implement instead of cap and trade the more I look into it.  For Integral, we also have to consider what is realistic.
 
It is good to challenge one's position by getting many and varied perspectives.  I do it all the time.  You may be surprised to find, as I consistently find, that with respect to climate change, most experts arrive at different conclusions from those made by Lomborg and by the Copenhagen Consensus.  Certainly Integral may consider Lomborg's skepticism toward the scientific consensus and dislike of Kyoto to see what, if anything, can be included into an overall Integral Ecology, but must ultimately not be confined to these experts alone.
 
Since many economists consider the Stern Review's 1% of global GDP investment to be inadequate if not, obsolete, in light of recent scientific studies noting faster changes, the .05% of GDP, as Copenhagen Consensus recommends, is even more obsolete.  In addition, the Copenhagen Consensus bases its analysis on a previous scientific opinion that a concentration of 550 ppm ceiling is safe and that a 3.0 C temperature rise is safe.  This contradicts the IPCC's 2007 recommendation, which warns that concentrations of CO2 above 450 ppm is unsafe.  This also contradicts more recent scientific evidence, which reveal that the rate of atmospheric changes has outpaced the projected rate of change as predicted by most climate model studies. 
 
The only way to account for these faster changes is to include numerous complex feedback mechanisms in addition to increasing rises in industrial CO2 emssion, which alone cannot account for these more recent changes.  Such feedback mechanisms as ocean acidification, melting sea ice, deforestation, methane release from melting permafrost, and precipitation are all working to amplify present greenhouse gases such that anything above a 2.0-2.5 C temperature rise is thought to be sufficient to trigger a sudden and catastrophic climate change, given all the positive feedbacks now in effect.  Because of this, Hansen, et al., want to set a ceiling of 350 ppm.  An Integral standpoint would also want to consider the latest scientific information and not reject it out of hand.
 
Something that would be admirable for Lomborg to do would be to change his stance that "yeah, global warming is human-caused due to CO2 emissions, but things are not as bad as they say."  He would definitely earn my respect.  It would be interesting to see how his perspective changes in light of newer information.  He would earn the respect of many more people as well, but I'm sure that he is paid very well to be the front line skeptic and spokesperson against cap and trade.
 
The Chinese will have an important role but they are not rich, therefore we need cheap solar panels.
 
Indeed, China said that it will not adopt cap and trade unless the U.S. does whereas India has stated that it has no plans to enter an agreement.  I suspect that with increasing pressure, India would have to cave in to an international agreement to set a ceiling on its carbon emissions if everyone else joined. 
 
As for cheap solar panels, Lomborg says it will be 2050 before they are cheap enough and apparently thinks that there's merely a slow and steady linear progression to climate change as projected by the Copenhagen Consensus, who are nothing but economists.  So as wonderful as it is in theory, what we need are immediate solutions to reducing CO2 concentrations to avoid amplifications and tipping points, which the Copenhagen Conference did not address.  A link below argues, for example, that what is critically needed is a reduction in demands of fossil fuel through better efficiency of energy, not an increase of supply of alternative or renewable energy sources.  I don't quite understand that logic because I thought that renewables would reduce fossil fuel dependence but apparently many think that efficiency works more efficiently to reduce carbon emissions than increasing sources of renewables.  I still think there should be a combination of the two so I'll have to study it further. 
 
It's our responsibility as much as anyone else's.
 
Agreed.

It's not too late.
 
We hope.  75% of climate scientists at MIT (see pie chart in a previous post) believe that an international agreement, such as cap and trade, will slow the temperature rise to only a 1.0-2.5 C by 2100 instead of the 6.0-7.0 C temperature rise with no international agreement, so maybe not too late.
 
Too much certainty makes me suspicious, especially regarding group dynamics.
 
Climate science isn't about certainty; only probabilities and statistics.  I do not understand the relation of group dynamics to climate science so please clarify (must be the Asperger).  
 
We can also say that by the same token, too much certainty or willingness to agree with Lomborg can undermine a person's credibility; so this makes me suspicious. Not of your integrity or honesty, but of your ability to analyze the information critically and most comprehensively and perceive the whole integrally when it comes to climate change issues.  Especially when mainstream science is not consulted and only Lomborg is used as a primary source, who is well-known to cherry-pick scientific data to present distorted information to create false either/or propositions (such as "mitigation" vs. "R&D" or "mitigation" vs. "third world hunger").
 
I have not found a single environmental website or science blog that has anything positive to say about Lomborg, but have read that he's the darling of right-wing think-tanks opposed to regulation.  This makes me highly suspicious about his agenda.  In fact, the only non-negative and non-right-wing thing I've seen written about Bjorn was the Op-ed piece from the Washington Post that he authored himself, which was full of misleading and erroneous scientific information, such as his claim that mitigation would only result in a 0.5 C decline in average global temperature by 2100 after trillions of dollars wasted.  The only way to arrive at such a figure is to cherry-pick out of numerous different emissions projections to select the best-case scenario for "no policy action" (3.5 C rise by 2100) and the worse-case scenario for "policy action" (3.0 C rise by 2100) and subtract the difference to arrive at only a 0.5 C reduction after trillions of dollars wasted on CO2 reduction.  Does this not strike you as misleading? 
 
Especially considering that climate scientists at MIT thought that no policy would result in up to a 6.0-7.0 C temperature rise by 2100 whereas "policy action" would slow the temperature rise to 1.0-2.5 C and possibly well within the accepted range for prevention of a catastrophic climate change?  By the same token, choosing from numerous projections (see pie charts), we could also use a "worse case"/"best case" scenario to prove our point and say that a cap and trade policy will result in a 6.0 C reduction in average global temperature (compared to Copenhagen Consensus's 0.5 C reduction).
 
Ever heard of "lying with statistics"?
 
Other "myths" (not necessarily in agreement or disagreement with Lomborg's Copenhagen Consensus):
 
Source: Grist.org