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Ken speaking at the end regarding developement and transformation saying we really have no idea why some people transform and some dont. I could only add that as I learned from Werner Erhards work is that tranformation is a space where one chooses to COME FROM or not.

It is purely a choice one chooses to come from this space. One speaks into existence a life already always transformed. If transformation is a function of developmement that in and of itself is a function of space and time, and is finite and thus limiting and constraning.

Infinity I say is a gift. And from this gifted space one creates a tranformed worldview , or not.

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OK I'm skeptical. Is there testing on examplars of prodigious transformation? If so, how good are the testing instruments? And if real, don't these early transformations create as many problems as they solve by generating lop-sided individuals without horizontal balance or reasonable psychograms? Remember Ken's quip that Ramana Maharshi would have had trouble going dancing at a country western bar. I can love the mystery, but what does the pudding taste like? I find little comfort in such observations. The dark side of the same news is how rapidly regression in functioning can occur in anybody. A little bump on the head from a falling pillar and Fighting Joe Hooker blew the Battle of Chancellorsville. Suddenly all his commanders hated him, even after his cognitive functioning returned.

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translation and transformation

Hello Bill, Mark and Jon,
 
I hope you don’t mind my entering this conversation, but it has touched on matters I have a great deal of interest in and that I feel are very important for us to clearly understand. If what I have to offer is valid then you may find that there really is no conflict regarding what Ken has said about there being no clear understanding of what can bring about transformation and the position of Werner Erhard as summarized by Bill.
 
As I am sure you are all aware KW has made a distinction between changes in translation and changes in structures of consciousness. For Ken only the developmental changes in structures of consciousness are referred to as transformation.
 
Translation is primarily characterized or colored by the “content” of consciousness. How we translate can change radically or gradually and follows no sequential growth or development patterns, other than as it may be affected by changes in structures of consciousness. Structures in consciousness provide the scaffolding that supports the content of consciousness. Or you might also say they provide the parameters that define the complexity of forms that the content can take.
 
While I agree in essence that the term transformation can only properly be applied to the “vertical” changes in structures of consciousness; I do not agree with what I see as an overemphasis in AQAL on transformation. Very real changes can and do occur in translation which have truly transformative effects in how we live in this world.
 
This brings me back to Erhard’s proposition that “transformation is a space where one chooses to come from or not”. Mark made an important point with the title of his comment, “already, always …” which indicates the essential nature of this “transformative” spacethat Erhard speaks about; it is always, already fully present, whether we realize it or not. As such it is that which is available to us at any and all stages of development and therefore not dependent on development.
 
It is the temporary experience of the always, already present transcendent “states” of consciousness that are available at any stage that Ken is careful to distinguish from “transformation’. He makes this distinction because it is clear that the “structures” in place in the perceiving consciousness limits how the experience will be translated. However, where Erhard is correct is that once we have realized the ever- present reality we can choose just how much we wish to be informed by and act in accordance with its infinite potential moment by moment. Or, as Bill has stated we determine how much “Infinity” will serve as the contextual background I choose to come from.”
 
Still, all of this will occur within the limitations of our stage of development. Furthermore it will also be effective only insofar as the “realization” of the Infinite is able to penetrate and purify the “content” of our consciousness so that we are not habitually dragged back into behavior that is contrary to the “realization” of our infinite potential.
 
It is my opinion, based on experience, that this is also the key to vertical transformation. The more clarity we bring to our daily experience the better we are able to see the limitations of our current worldview and intelligence itself then responds by opening us up to the discovery of new and expanded possibilities.
 
At least, that is the way I understand all of this. What do you see?
 
Jerry

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It is in the clarity of Conscious Awareness that Truth is revealed.

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