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Hi Carey,

I was not the individual that removed the posts. I did get your message about that and meant to respond but forgot & I apologize for that!!

As I note in the videos, I do take your word that in some real sense, at present, the logics are not perfect within this expression of the system. I have been working on a theory called Quadratic development and Brian O' I don't think agrees with this theory. But could well play a role in the Trialectics system. In its essence, I am arguing that there is a parallel between the quadrants and development. Namely, that we have primary focus within particular quadrants as we grow... this pattern would in some real sense reach back into the animal realm and even, i think, into the plant domain. 

To clarify, on earth (in general agreement with academic theories and integral) it took about thirteen billion years to develop impulsive beings. These beings can subjectively fulfill their own needs (without self-reflexivity) notice that the transition from the first forms of life until the development of reptiles was one of increasing mobility. Until, with the rise of reptiles, there is a degree of mobility and self-direction that had never been possible with beings on the planet up to that point (including mobility in both water and land). Although there is some degree of inter-subjective relations within the reptilian species it is minimal (maybe 25% of the reptiles focus arguably) with about 50% on fulfilling impulsive needs as a primary focus. (although all four-quadrants are ever-arising)

With the evolution of birds, you're seeing a hybrid between reptiles and mammals. I'd argue that they are now in the subjective-space of the new inter-subjective domain (flocking patterns ect... some of these patterns are seen in late reptiles). When you see the rise of the mammals proper they are express inter-subject, inter-subjectivity as a primary focus. With late mammals you are seeing the development of early self-awareness (again expressing approximately 25% pattern of the level higher self-reflexivity - I would say that infra-red is also a mature expression of this. As some developmentalists note that when a magical-thinker puts on a mask of an animal they may think they have taken on the identity of that animal. They are transiting to the self-reflective stages of development or objective realm as a primary focus. So this shift has added inter-subjectivity to the list... this being can now express a form of both subjectivity and inter-subjectivity.

When RED comes online the individual has developed through the domains of reptiles subjective impulsivity (reptilian brain-stem), mammals inter-subjectivity (limbic system) and now activated early become self-reflexive proper, or early objectivity (from a subjective gaze). Amber adds inter-subjectivity within the domain of objectivity and Orange is the expression of objective-objective or, the summit of humanness in a sense. Green is the beginning realization of a new way of being (interpreted from an objective worldspace). That higher worldspace is inter-objectivity. This is the beginning understanding of the requirement and/or denial  of something higher than individuated autonomy. this realization paradoxically arises from the expressions in and through the creations made by ones self-reflexive autonomy (i.e. objects created by the objective lens of the human being). Teal and higher leap into this space that is yet properly online as a whole system/understanding - the noosphere) In other words those leaping into 2nd tier are leaping into a space that is radically in the process of being created by mental now inter-objectively autonomous beings -they can minimally feel-into others. The coming online of this realization, if this pattern is right and holds, would starting in the techno-noosphere would be a subjective expression of the inter-objective domain. (Through felt-sense impulsive-like connection to all? beings). While maintaining ones autonomy as an individuate self-sense... that is capable of reasoning. This system would add some new element to the process of becoming if the pattern holds and that pattern would be at play presently but go unseen by the eyes of humans at this time. Just as reason is above the heads of mammals.

How this could connect to Triacletics, is that i feel Trialectics is a very good expression of the mind realm (as it accounts for subjectivity, inter-subjectivity and objectivity or core, head and heart) or the real big three humans are capable of fully expressing. If I am right about this process of development than the inter-objective pattern itself will almost naturally evolve onto (over top of) this existing pattern when the next beings reach Inter-Objective, inter-objectivity... and before to some extent but the full expression would come I believe at that point.  So, in other words, this logic is incomplete because in part, the universe itself from our perspective is incomplete - its a process and I feel this may well be a step forward in this process (IMO).