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Charting 'we space" patterns

Hi All,

In the thread linked here: http://integrallife.com/member/jeannesimons/blog/always-different-0 reference is made to the possibility of charting what i've called 'energy patterns' in a human relationship that focuses on the additional possibility of seeing this relationship as an entity. Or in integral speak shorthand, a focus on the potentials of a defined 'we space'. It's my view that when a human being enters manifestation (at the birth moment) it does not enter tabula rasa. On the contrary, evidently what happens in the shift from the timeless to the timely a sort of stamp is placed on each newborn. In integral speak this is thought of as a tetra arising; however i also consider a birth moment to be an imprinting by Nature herself, almost as if nothing manifests without her permission -assuming it's OK to use this sort of language. The process of examining this birth moment has a long and checkered history; my own view has evolved to the point where i consider it to be a sort of language, and as a sign reader, it's my self- appointed task to translate and interpret this 'language' into common English. My studies in this area eventually moved beyond the potentials of just one human being (in integral speak an "I" space) into the possibilities of 'we' space; something that i suggested in the earlier thread was possibly akin to a Venn diagram. Yesterday when considering on how to present an introduction to this material i thought it best to employ an example. Now it turns out that i have little interest in celebrity, but in this case i have opted for a famous couple as example, because their birth data is both well known and generally considered to be accurate. (This is no little thing because this technique requires accurate birth data.) So this morning for the first time i took a look at what this language might have to say about the 'we space' of Charles and Diana. But before going any farther let me back up a bit and explain something about the technique being used here. In one sense it's astonishingly simple: the positions of the various 'energy' centers as signified by the longitudes of sensitive points and planets in the birth charts of two potential partners are averaged. Say for example if partner A was born on the first day of spring, and partner B was born on the first day of autumn, then their 'we space' sun, would be at the midpoint of these two, or the first day of summer. All other similar pairs of points are treated in the same manner; in astro speak this technique is called the making of a composite. There is a sort of syntax to this language; and two of its chief features are precision and redundancy. It's sort of like this. If I'm downtown in a big city like Chicago and i pass by as pedestrian someone looking up at a tall building, i might not pay too much attention assuming that it was likely to be the act of some newbie in town or a native oddball. But if there were a closely packed group of folks that were all looking upward (representing both precision and redundancy) it would probably get my attention. Hey, i might even join in! There are two such pairings in the composite of Charles and Diana. Both are extremely precise i.e. very close to each other in longitude. The first is Mars often thought to be the indicator of the male presence in a relationship, it is conjoined with Neptune, the dissolver or deceiver. Now this can be read in a number of ways, all of which may have some truth to them. It may indicate a we space where the male partner's sexual interest in the female is subject to decline, dis-interest or dissolution; it could also indicate deception on the male's part. It's well known that Charles had a paramour -some would say a substitute mother figure, whose presence at the time of his marriage with Diana was either unknown or not well understood by the new bride. Like it or not it's this sort of deception where one party with holds information that is vital to the other is not different from sowing the seeds of destruction to the relationship. (This is a lesson i had to learn the hard way.) The other close pattern is placed at the very apex of this chart signaling widespread public recognition. It holds the energy significator of expansion very close to the indicator for wounding. Simply put it's a remarkably clear indicator of a big hurt made public! There is a lot more that could be said about these things, but i was immediately struck by these two sets of indicators. It couldn't have been more clear to me, if i'd been a CSI lab rat testing something with phenolphthalein for a pink or blue result. Warmly, Charles 41N58'02" 88W18'28"