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yes, it is really interesting.  i'm reminded of a documentary i found fascinating, The Fog of War -- i knew i wouldn't be getting the truth from that documentary, but it was nonetheless fascinating to ponder what was said.

from wikipedia, 

 

R.S. McNamara's eleven lessons of war

Empathize with your enemy

Rationality will not save us

There's something beyond one's self

Maximize efficiency

Proportionality should be a guideline in war

Get the data

Belief and seeing are often both wrong

Be prepared to re-examine your reasoning

In order to do good, you may have to engage in evil

Never say never

You can't change human nature

 

2nd tier? probably not. but subtle, complex and foggy? yeah.