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Good Day Christophe,

Indeed, there is much common ground here. In fact I would venture to say that we are in full agreement. But, certainly it is always helpful for each of us in these discussions at IL to get beneath the usual interpretations of the words in matters as deep at this. Even in the lighter subjects it is wise to be sure we clearly understand what the other person "means" as opposed to what we "hear". As a psychologist I expect you are already aware of just how much we can distort another person's view when we impose or project our own past and viewpoint onto their side of the conversation.

The only differences I would point out are probably not differences in viewpoint, just in how I word my point of view. For example, I would not say the mythic god has died. I would say the mythic god was never alive. What is extinguished in individuals is their meta narrative about such a god - the stage appropriate story they told themselves to make sense of what at first glance appears to be senseless.

Never mind that the story was not rational. It was not the product of a rational mind nor was the intended "audience" a rational mind. That is not to say it did not serve a valuable purpose. But, needs change with each stage of evolution of consciousness and when the mythic story becomes a hindrance to seeing the deeper aspects of Life it is optimum that the story comes to an end. How it genuinely comes to an end can be the topic for another post.

The second "tweaking" to your wise words would be about the "opposites of Life and Death".  It appears at first glance to work well for Truth that you were looking to express - that death does not put an end to Life (with a capital L) it only marks the end of a particular form. This is a fact we both have observed. But what this points to is that Death (with a capital D) does not really exist. There is only the death that is the opposite of birth, two end points within timeless time (time as continuum) that mark the emergence and demise of countless forms.

When this view point is clarified then we are free to consider the deeper question. Does the Life (as consciousness) that "informed" the temporary "form" continue on? If so, in what form? What, if anything, might be retained? What can we actually know about such a Life form? And, of course, there is also the question of whether or not the belief in "life after death" is really helpful or not? I suspect this last question, like the question of a mythic god, is best addressed in stage specific terms.

Thank you so much for your well thought out and well worded response. Our exchange together is a great example of how two people can dig together below the words and into the meaning and find their common ground. And that ground turned out, in this case, to be our virtually common worldviews.

Later,

Jerry

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It is in the clarity of Conscious Awareness that Truth is revealed.