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No More!! No more selves!!
The Ultimate self, the unique self, the True self, the relative self, the infinite self, the authentic self, the false self, the finite self, the Real self, and the ego. .....gee, thanks a lot Ken! lol!
As if all the above was not enough....
Is there such a thing as a diagrammatic view of all these selves so that we can see where they are relative to each other?
Would be nice...
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a Diagrammatic is Therefore Necessarily a Lens - of Whole Complex of Simple...
Posted October 15th, 2010 by Michael Maskow.png)
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The Tuning Fork...
Posted October 16th, 2010 by vernpeacehi, a...chamber...orchestra...has...about...50...selves
...a...philharmonic orchestra...has...about...100...selves
...yet...they...all...play...in...harmony...why...because...they
...are...all...tuned...to...1...vibration...so...if...we...have...5...
10...or...even...a...hundred...selves...it...makes...no...difference
...they...can...only...ever...serve...the...one...master...vibration...
or...not...and...we...can...have...a...not...so...harmonious...cats...choir!
peace&love...vern
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Thanks All
Posted October 18th, 2010 by GnosisManThanks for sharing your ideas and also thanks for the diagram.
There is so much I need to learn...it's hard to keep up!
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on the 3 Faces of Love - Unconditional, Conditioning, Conditional
Posted October 15th, 2010 by Michael MaskowLet's take a crack at this :-)
What it appears that Ken is highlighting in Complete Loving Reality is essentially two-fold:
Absolute Awareness (atemporal unmanifest nature of reality) is:
- Empty Light (boundless, i.e. clear, i.e. totality of change)
- Full Shadow (unfathomable, i.e. deep, i.e. totality of witness)
That is, the Nature which gives rise to Dimensions of infinite space and structural potential of the quadrant, linear conditioned reality are simultaneously Absolute and Relative.
The apparent contradiction of two Absolute Unconditional Dimensions within Pure Absolute Awareness is in fact the conditioning and unconditioning of a single co-emergent (i.e. apparently multiplicitous), concentrated (i.e. absolutely conditioned), unified perspective (self-arising, dissolving reference point) across a spectrum (i.e. relatively infinite) of modalities (i.e. selves, harmonics, object and subject space interactions).
Relative Awareness (temporary manifest expression of reality) is then interpenetrated:
- Developmental Embodiment
- Experiential Identification
That is, the finite structures which give rise to, as well as the dynamic infinite progression within the quadrant spaces is always self-arising (without prior cause) and self-dissolving (without post effect) due to the absolute nature and absolute dimensions upon which the dynamic and space are themselves conditioned and increasingly complex (i.e. apparently multiplicitous over time - that is the appearance of a singularity of 'you' and a 'separate' singularity of 'me' emerge, though for an infinitely short duration, with symmetric momentum and asymmetric reflection sustaining the concentration of embodiment and identification - transparent memory and creative generation).
What it seems Ken is attempting to do is point in out these True (i.e. both absolute and relative) dimensions so that in real-time, confusion ceases, and transpersonal Empty Light and Full Shadow can become fully Embodied and Experienced as the complete past, present, and future of personally interconnected individuals and wholes.
infinite and finite, simultaneously-atemporaneous, skillfully-nondoing, in love
peace
michael
- something like that -
resistance is found
in the heart condition
unconditionally always to remain
falling apart
into unconditionality
conditioning mind to erase
all of which is
and always is
freely in love
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~MfMaskow~