Hello, I heard in a very attentive way Wilber's "fullness and freedom" post.
And I have a doubt. Can someone help me clarify it?
I know that the stages have lines of development (cognitive, interpersonal, psychossexual, emotional, moral), but after this video I realized that probably "stages" are more about rational cognition and "states" about non-rational cognition.
I guess that's why so many persons at green altitude initiate "spiritual" development... green is the last station - which is essentialy rational - of the vertical growth.
The (Wilber) theory is that stages are vertical and states are both horizontal and (i guess) vertical (exist in different altitudes).
What I'm suggesting is that States and Stages are both vertical and horizontal, because progressive desidentification is also helping to increase perspectives. Don't you need some horizontal "work" to move on the vertical growth?
Isn't "vertical growth" always about rational understanding of more perspectives? So, vertical growth can be a gradual refinement of non-rational apprehension of reality. We have different meditative experiences at different altitudes, but once we reach the subtle states of meditation there is no "way back"... we don't restart from the gross to subtle (to causal) again, we already "have" all states we've passed through.
How can lines of development indicate vertical growth if you can't (in my opinion) develop some of them (emotional, moral, interpersonal) without subtle perceptions that come from the stages development (horizontal growth)?
Thank you,
gonçalo branco
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