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Always Different?

I am, at least to some extent, participating in this forum because I crave others who think as I do about they same things I like to think about. By no means do I mean that they should agree with me, but that we would be able to have wonderful, deep, intellectual conversations. I have always abstained from participating in regular online discussions before because they always seem to degenerate into insignificant conversations, repetition of ideas or veiled (or not so veiled) hostility.

I am posting this, I suppose, as a cry for like-minded souls who perhaps are as alone intellectually as I am. Sometimes I feel as if I am unique in all the world (and yes, I know we are all different and unique but sometimes one can be more different than most).

So what makes me different? First of all I am quite intelligent- two degrees from prestigious colleges, etc. I  am not trying to boast, it is just a fact that I appreciate on one level and struggle with on others. I have interacted with very intelligent people. I went to Caltech as an undergraduate where people are absolutely brilliant, but only interested in science, math and engineering and, with all due respect for my friends from there, they are not very good with spirituality, empathy, interpersonal or intrapersonal interactions. I have strong interests in math, science etc. but I also long to discuss psychology, spirituality, etc. So Caltech was not the answer for me. I also went to Harvard fairly recently and got my Masters degree in a combined major of Mind, Brain and Education (psychology, neuroscience and education). The people there were closer to what I was hoping for, but bringing spirituality into the picture at the graduate school of education is not exactly what the school promotes or what most people are seeking when they go there.

I have also sought out people purely interested in spirituality and this has had very mixed results. First of all I don't understand how some people can be so even, quiet, accepting and gentle all of the time. I am not like that and feel as if I am about to offend these people at any moment with my quirky sense of humor, my occasionally too loud laugh and my uncontrollable enthusiasm when something stimulates me. After many years (at least 14 years) of spiritual study, meditation, serious self reflection, and hard work on myself that I believe has been very productive in transforming me into a more evolved person, I don't seem to have found the correct tradition to quell my basically rambunctious nature. Secretly (or maybe not so secretly), I am glad I have not changed these things about myself, as they are after all who I am. These people are so very kind and good, but frequently so agreeable that having a discussion with them is no fun at all. Other spiritual people can be way out there in their beliefs- fairy dust, leprecons, aliens, Atlantis. Now I am hardly mainstream, I have studied shamanism, had three Reiki attunements (next one makes me a master) and healings, have had serious mystical experiences and deeply believe that God is right there for us. I also respect everyone's need to pursue a spiritual path that meets their needs (and who knows- maybe they are right about fairies) and I would not ever suggest that they should follow my path, but I don't feel I can have the types of interactions I desire with these individuals.

So here I am, sometimes critical, logical, deeply spiritual, interested in psychology, a little goofy and overly enthusiastic, with foundations in science and (now don't laugh) I am deeply committed to finding a way to seriously improve the world, in my case specifically our educational system, through big picture changes however small that will subtly push our world in a more positive direction and I work every day, both on my own and professionally, to try to work towards this goal. I do not necessarily seek others in education, just others who feel they are on a similar mission to change the big picture structures of our culture and society. I have friends and children who love me and who I share many things with and I am overall pretty happy with my life but there is an empty place where I crave interaction with others on the topics I have the greatest passion for.

This feels like I am putting myself terribly on the line because the stuff I have written here is quite personal. Ken Wilber states that others find friendship here when they haven't found it elsewhere and truthfully I think this is my best hope for finding what I am looking for. His philosophy is rigorous scientifically and lets face it, if you make it through a Ken Wilber book you must be smart. He merges psychology and spirituality- perfect! AQAL also provides an ideal model for creating change within our systems. So, I would like to hear from others who feel the same. I have looked at some of the blogs and don't see exactly what I am looking for but there are thousands of members out there and I only read a handful of blogs.

Wishing you all the highest and best,

Jeanne

 

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Individuality and friendship

 

Happy Friday Jeanne,
I considered it prima facie evidence that you're on the right track, not only that you've found your way to this bit of cyberspace, but that you realize the importance of what might be called friendly resonance, and that you enjoy a level of confidence sufficient to enter escape velocity from lurk mode.
From my view what prevents acquaintance from developing into friendship is having an agenda. Friends have a way of meeting each other in the open.  But this openness business doesn't seem to have an end as there is always more of us that is waiting to be revealed. A friend invites this revealing; and we experience it as revelation.
It's my view that our individuality is such that we are predisposed to make and enjoy  friendships more with certain types than with others. But in any case, a good friend is a treasure beyond measure, and i have every confidence that one could do a lot worse than hanging around here.
Warmly,
Charles
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I like you rambunctious Jeanne

I've only begun to appreciate your entries Jeanne, but see sides of myself in you except I am possibly diametrically opposite in many ways. I am a real spaz when it comes to math but since I am interested in everything, I could also be interested if I set my mind to overcoming a weird fear of numbers.  I am probably just as goofy as you and love humor and quirky people. As I cared for my sick mom in 1997, I found a way to make money doing caricatures all over San Diego County. I loved contorting peoples faces -- fun! By the way, I use the password "kwerky717" often on the internet. When I was in high school I did very poorly and really hated school and found it lackluster and boring except for art and English literature. I ditched school a lot because back in the day there were no calls to parents and anyhow my parents both worked. The main focus I had then was drawing and painting around the clock and hanging with other misfits playing guitar. One day the principal called me to the office and sourly pointed out that my my grades were really bad and that there was no excuse since I showed an IQ of 147. He said you have got to "take the bull by the horns." Inwardly I was thinking "but it is all bull, sir" and also thought "I guess I am not as smart as my mom who proudly told us that her IQ was 152"). My mother was my hero in a lot of ways. She taught me and my brother and sister at home when we were small living out in the wilds of Wyoming. She pulled herself up by the bootstraps and ended up getting a Master's Degree at age 42 from San Diego State College. She became a well-known teacher of solely "gifted" children in Chula Vista CA. The children came to her mobile units from all over the county. Among other things she was a gifted mathematician. She designed and coordinated all her teaching materials. When I took care of her in the late 90s former grown up students came to visit their old teacher, they loved her and thanked her for teaching them.

I feel like I have wasted a lot of time since my mother's passing in a sort of a mournful, disoriented state. I cared for her a full five years; it took all my attention, love and interest. Since her passing I have felt dislocated as far as work and productive activies are concerned. I remarried and have moved around alot but all the time have felt an inner restlessness to be working with talented, interesting people doing something worthwhile. I have felt there is something basic missing in my life and there is a strong pressure to pull out of this state. I have an obligation and desire to develop my abilities and talents in a new direction now and put them to good use. Integral Life seems like a good place to gain a sense of direction, that and the decision I have made to participate in a buddhist meditative practice once again. I feel like I did as a teenager just starting out in life, but the road ahead is a lot shorter.

I just wanted to encourage you, Jeanne. I look forward to hearing more from you. Your spirit reminds me of my mother, her single-minded devotion to improving education, her tenacity, intelligence and curiousty. Plus she was funny and kind.

Barbara Quimba