The Daily Evolver: The Evolutionary Force of New World Economics

The orange and green "allergies" interest me.

If we didn't have an allergy with orange would we have it with a different color?

To put it another way, could the allergy be an issue with some aspect of ourselves?

Or perhaps the allergy take on things is the best way we know to navigate the issues and perspectives that those levels of "green" and "orange" we see have posed?

Another possibility also arises: what if our view of what green and orange is does not correspond to the particular stage of development manifesting itself in front of us?

As members of a group with our supposed "calling" and identified by our supposed enhanced cognitive ability are we not doing ourselves a disservice by closing particular voices from the domain of discussion simply because they rub us the wrong way?

If we savor in our ability to point out which quadrant this perspective or that stems out of... or around which line or stage of development a particular opinion orients itself, then are we not just occupying ourselves with knowledge and not the BE-ing that is its manifestation?

The use  of our knowledge in constructive ways - the true 'knowing' of anything - might always remain out of reach to us.

Discovering (identifying) our stance on an issue is only part of the work. Shouldn't we also create (doing/being) our stance as well - even if it makes a few waves?

Is the current attempt of procuring the right of HealthCare include the gutting of the American Constitution and a total theft of our treasury?

Wait so the current attempt isn't the argument here.  The future likelihood and potential best idea for gaining health care as a right for the American Citizenry.

But what about the current moment?  Matt Damon is still trying to hold on to the last thread of dignity in his choice in this President and all the smack he laid on the line for His run.  

So many issues and points that I here daily with clarity in the news have gone totally ignored in this conversation and I understand most likely for good reason. 

it isn't "right vs privilege" especially when whole states have thrown the bill to the side siting constitutional bankruptcy of the health care legislation on top of that you have 100's of single groups and corporations who have garnished exemptions through no significant reason other than monetary affiliation.  Corruption is the real reason that the right of Health Care is not going forward.. corruption and underling alternative interest by those who built its current conception for the US initiation....

Still I remember the integral gauge that showed Obama hiting many 2nd tier points during the debates and no follow up on how if at all that was lived up to (or just good speach writting) or and how it may not have been.  seems it would have been the most important follow up in the history of political integral studies to the integrity of the process of presidency and research itself.

where are these aspects of the entire picture being presented?  I'm interested.

thanks for the contribution.

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I don't see any evidence of candid 2nd tier activity when I see the perspectives on the news being posted on this site.

Why is it that the 2nd tier has provided us with such great tools to reach a deeper understanding and choose not to use those tools themselves?

How long must we stand by and watch the leadership take no position on what is obviously being done to our global society?

This state of affairs didn't come by accident.

Please don't tell me that you 2nd tier people haven't seen what is going on in the world.

We have been at this place before in history; do we need to repeat it?

Mankind has paid too high a price to reach to where we are, we cannot let those who have come before us to have lived in vain.

My Observational Experience has lead me to believe: Due to the reality that I listen often to talk radio and news reports and have for enough years now that my accumulative Political IQ should be quite high.  It isn't. What I do know is that at this moment they have pretended to be what they are not.  They have hidden themselves in Rock Star persona and 60's stereotypes projecting the imagery of a counter culture to the youth of which they despise.  The most important signature here is that they stand on a foundation stolen from the creative futuristic evolutionary drive that created the 60's and since have done everything within there power to eliminate the cultural pioneers who pushed the new realities into position.  "The HIGH water mark of the 60's" as spoken of by Hunter S. Thompson in his book "Fear and Loathing in Las Vagas" is a curious thing to me.  I consider the moment when the government caught up to the folks responsible for shifting the tides and began to tighten there grip on social reality streams.  Very few seem to have realized that the evolutionary drive of our culture was squelched out of existence by both political parties who together played good cop bad cop in self correction.  Created wars to divert attention away from the events of evolving spiritual logic.  Sure we know now that many in the early to late 60's did not have 2nd tier compassion and drive but have we asked who was responsible for removing the drive all together?  I feel a great desire to make a clear statement that the democratic party is NOT and has never been "On The Bus"  They have pretended to and aligned themselves with the ideas and referenced themselves in cloak of new age environmental concern and global village mentalities to appear as such.  The poles have shifted. "Shave Kerouac off like a Beard".. These people have not concern for Dharma.  Do not give them proposition in registry of inauthentic Gravities, They will take every blessed bloast.  Make them prove themselves and originate there own alliance with 2nd tier logics.  Do not offer open reference for they will hire 2nd tier officials geared to present to 2nd tier stupids a picture in step better than the alternatives.  What is my script.  How do I see my part - our part.  What good does it do to announce such a thing?  What good has it ever brought me - duh - none.

Hold them to the High standard that you have held me to here in the least of the Kingdom. 

There are government officials watching this site to gear for the next election.

"We must be ready to become the new leaders and innovators for our new Integral world that I know all of us believe is possible...But we also must come together in a more unified way with each other. The thought occurs to me we could begin with a template of what we vision this world looking like. What unique qualities and gifts do each of us have to bring to this creative vision....once we have this vision then the next step is how do we manifest this vision"

I think it is too late to unify and template a vision, we must manifest NOW or sometime next August.  Which ever comes first.

Don't for a moment think that the government understands integral and respects it, they don't.  It is a machine of statistical reference to them, nothing more than a pool of intelligence on what color the first ladies dress needs to be and how to play commercials to each fold of development and reach votes on multilateral streams to reach there privatized agendas.

We are not setting up focal systems of legitimate integral critic.  we are like that possessed king in lord of the rings sleeping on the thrown. I am the white magician. WAKE UP!

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Yes, we definitely should change the system. Our movement is not even in the starting blocks on this issue. I sure hope that changes soon - the silence is deafening!

"Where was the integral movement with regard to the concerted implosion of the world economies for the sake of that global hegemony that failed?", it will be asked. And how will our movement answer that question?

We must be aware of our responsibility. Are we not 'enlightened'? The people ARE going to win against this move to enslave them: an attempt perpetrated through the excision of their personal/national sovereignty combined with the yoke of fictitious debt. I believe we all 'know' this somehow. Why are we not helping them now when they need us most?

We are supposed to know better!

Great discussion and I really appreciate the integral view on both the positives and negatives of the world economic system. Overall, I think it's proven that capitalism as a system works to create wealth and that the world in general is better off materially than it's ever been. I think a big problem in our society is cultural, stemming from people's individual values and what we choose to focus on. Americans and others who have reached that $70K threshold  mentioned in the talk are still evolving culturally, but the the majority of the world who is below that threshold are just trying to survive and ensure their family's survival and it's not easy for many. The people at the top can try to help, but I think that at the end of the day the stability of the world may be threatened by the masses of the have nots who will feel it the most in a down economic cycle. It looks like we are beginning to enter one, which will continue to worsen until we come up with a major technology breakthrough as big as the internet was to the 90s or something like a new source of energy.

I think I've heard this before on this site, but it's like there are two opposing forces working: an evolutionary force and a destructive de-evolutionary force at the same time. But in the end, I think the rich will protect what they have, and the poor will suffer. How culturally evolved the rich ("ie. Americans/Europeans") are, will determine how ugly it gets and whether we can ease into a cleaner, more efficient, and more value centered economy (ie. Green Capitalism), or crash and land into it.

Capitalism will continue to rule until we have achieved a minimum level of abundance for everyone in the world, which in my view is the goal.

 my two cents.

Permaculture is awesome as an approach to human-ecology integration. I fell in love with it the first time I learned about it. Unfortunately I have the opposite of a "green thumb" so I've never tried to make even a simple garden.