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The Coming Integral Religion
Reposted from the Association of United Integralists forum...
Let's get this point out of the way right now. Whether we call the Association of United Integralists (AUI) a "spiritual association" or a "religion," it will be understood by the world as a religion. Let's deal with it.
If you're a religious person, you may find the idea of changing your religion or joining a second religion challenging. And if you're not, then you could have many other entirely valid concerns.
Top 25 Reasons Why "Integral" Isn't, Can't Be, Shouldn't, or Never in a Million, Billion Years Will Be a Religion
- I already have a religion and I would have to change my core beliefs.
- I already have a religion and it is inconceivable to me that anyone can be a member of two religions at once.
- I've been hurt too badly by religions in my past.
- I don't want anyone telling me what to do or think, and that's what religion is.
- I don't need a religion, my spirituality is entirely personal and individual and I like it that way.
- If people knew I was in a religion outside of the mainstream, I might be discriminated against.
- I want to keep my spiritual life "in the closet" because my spouse, parents, relatives, or friends won't approve.
- If "integral" became a religion, it would lose something that makes it distinctive.
- If "integral" became a religion, it would change and then I'd lose something I cherish.
- If "integral" became a religion, it would become cultish.
- If "integral" became a religion, it would repeat all the mistakes made by religions past.
- If "integral" became a religion, someone would appoint themselves Pope.
- I have a fixed concept of what religion is and there's no other way to think about religion than mine, and "integral" isn't a religion. If it were, I would walk out!
- If "integral" became a religion, academics wouldn't take the theory and philosophy seriously.
- "Integral" shouldn't be a religion. There would be too much politics!
- "Integral" shouldn't be a religion. There will be sects and factions and division!
- "Integral" shouldn't be a religion. It's impossible. People should stick with one traditional religion and make it better, not try to invent something new.
- "Integral" shouldn't be a religion. I make my living doing "integral" and the religion might give away for free something that I need to charge money for. If that happened, I might not be able to get by or support my family.
- Religion isn't integral. That's blue meme. That's amber altitude. I thought we were past all that! I'm too evolved for that sort of thing.
- I unconsciously enjoy looking down on people who are religious.
- I'm a seeker, not a finder!
- I'm afraid of commitment.
- I'm angry, but I don't know why.
- I'm sad, but I don't know why.
- I'm scared, but I don't know why.
- I'm a priest/clery/seminarian for an established religion and afraid that letting people know about "integral" will estrange me from people I can't afford to alienate.
Does any of this sound familiar?
I have answered these concerns for myself to my own satisfaction. Quite simply, I've looked at the sociological trends in the "integral spiritual movement" from the mid-1970s through the 80s and 90s and 00s and arrived at the conclusion that the "religionizing" of some portion of that movement is already happening and indeed it is actually INEVITABLE.
Therefore, I'm concerned not with the ifs, but with the hows. How can we collectively bring some portion of the movement a step forward in a good way. I don't have all the answers. That's why I am trying to gather people into conversation so that we can work through this stage of development in a skillful and smart way.
If the prospect of there being an "integral religion" or "integral spiritual organization" scares you, I suggest that this is a growth opportunity. Bear in mind that life presents an ever-moving polarity between being in community and being alone, and ask yourself how you want to manage that polarity in your life right now. Bear in mind that nobody's saying you need to give up anything you are doing right now that's working for you, or quit any organization or religion that works for you. Look at the projections you have about yourself, religion, and about whatever it is that "integral" has meant to you until this moment.
THERE WILL BE A DISTINCTIVE INTEGRAL RELIGION. (Perhaps more than one.) That statement is closer to being a fact than ever before. My invitation is that you greet the future with optimism whether you choose to participate or sit on the sidelines. And if you join us in this "under construction" phase or after the literal or figurative church doors are open, will you put your fears in front of you and replace them with hope?
Will you listen to the counsel of your own nature's better angels and ask what they are speaking into your heart, or will you go to sleep?
Ken Wilber once said that if anything asks a person to change 5% of their beliefs about reality, that thing encounters tremendous resistance. Does the possibility of the existence of the AUI challenge 5% of your beliefs or more?
Lets get our concerns out of the closet and into the open. What bothers you?
Note: This post was originally posted at the Association of United Integralists (http://theaui.ning.com/) forum, where discussion is also welcome.
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The Integral Chruch of AQAL
Posted August 31st, 2010 by BalderHi, Joe,
I'm not sure if you ever came across these discussions, but several years ago, first on Integral Naked, and then later on the Multiplex, I started conversations on a related question: "The Integral Church of AQAL: A New Religion?" I searched for these discussions today, only to learn, to my disappointment, that both the Integral Naked and Multiplex forums have been decommissioned. So, a lot of nice content has been lost. But through Google's cache, I was at least able to recover one of the opening posts:
AQAL provides a way of looking at (and potentially invigorating) various traditions individually, and also of relating them to one another. But with the emergence of preferred ILP practices (including new perspective-based exercises); specialized jargon; novel variations on traditional concepts; a hierarchy of teachers, initiates, and neophytes; a group of organizations dedicated to communicating the Integral vision to society; and so on, the transformation of Integral into a religion in its own right -- a redemptive path in itself, rather than just a way to map other redemptive paths and knowledge disciplines -- appears to be a distinct possibility.
What do you think of this? Do you see signs of it? What concerns and issues does it raise? Is it necessarily a negative development, or might it also be positive?
Best wishes,
B.
There were interesting responses in those discussions on multiple sides of this question -- some arguing Integral should always remain a universal meta-view and should never be associated with any "church" or become a religion in its own right, while others indicated they already resonated with it as a genuine path of spiritual transformation (rather than just a map of other paths).
On my side, when I first posted that question, I had reservations about the apparent "religionizing of Integral" (though it did appear to me to be underway already). One concern was that the theory would get co-opted by people with a vision of it that I did not share, perhaps forcing me to make a break with it (or the "official" version of it); another was that Integral, in itself, doesn't have a substantial enough "body" on which to build, since so much of it is borrowed and rests on summaries of, and orienting generalizations about, other philosophies, practices, disciplines, etc. Can a "parasite" become a "host" (to use an unflattering metaphor!)? Another concern had to do with the types of teachers who were typically "endorsed" by Wilber and the official "Integral body" -- a number of whom are rather controversial and not compelling or attractive to me, personally. I didn't (and don't) really want those individuals to rise to positions of central spiritual authority within the Integral movement. (Currently, there are a number of teachers operating under the Integral umbrella that I do like and whom I respect quite a lot, so my concerns about "who" is getting endorsed certainly don't involve all "Integral teachers" across the board).
As you have noted in my recent paper, however, I have been more actively recommending the development of a distinct "Integral spirituality" -- having accepted that it was happening already, and wanting there to be a clearer differentiation between Integral meta-theory and "Integral" as a system of belief committed to a particular metaphysics, soteriological vision, spiritual praxis, etc. Some of the concerns I voiced in my earlier discussions still remain, and there are others as well -- such as whether Integral thought is really mature enough yet to serve as such a foundation, and if a rush now to forming an Integral Religion is premature (even if likely inevitable) -- but I'm open to exploring these questions with others, and trust the development of something profound and new is indeed possible, in time.
Best wishes,
Bruce
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Glen Beck
Posted September 1st, 2010 by Greg MayersSince Glen Beck is crusading to make his brand of politics a national religion, who do you think will win the competition betwen Integralism and Beckism for the national soul? Can Integralism have more adherents than Beckism? Could we have a rally on the national mall?
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Posted August 30th, 2010 by Greg MayersGreat! Another religion? Does this mean that Integralists get to slaughter their non-believing neighbors?
Do believers have to memorize chapter and verse of KW's collected works, with revisions as they come along?
I thought Integral was a reform movement of the Vendantic/Buddhist philosophy and/or Neo-Platonism which can be used to explain and contextualize established religions and known philosophies...
Oh, well, I've been so wrong so many times...
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