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Everyone's opinion is valid
REally not but is.. look how interesting.. green vs next phases so you can not put the ideas in a frame and dismiss them as invalid.. you will not move forward with out this, sorry.. I happen to be the best painted in the worst at this time
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i like this
Posted December 29th, 2011 by Shikha Sabharwal in response to Everyone's opinion is valid except for Mine!i like it bunches- except for the Truth of it is NOT neato. It's just simply not neato, this much is clear.
yourself, however, you are neato, which is also excellent. amen.
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i know how that goes...
Posted November 16th, 2011 by Shikha Sabharwal in response to Everyone's opinion is valid except for Mine!less than delightful, right? sheesh. i have yet to find a helpful suggestion about it, save indignation, which is wearying unless shared, i think. fortunately, you are a r t i c u l a t e ... and thank goodness for still having both
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Why Are They Making Your Life Miserable?
Posted December 29th, 2011 by G Campbell in response to Everyone's opinion is valid except for Mine!Hi.
I mean, why is it so important to you? Maybe that is the very same victim mentality that they have? Of course, when you say somebody is making your life miserable, that means you are a victim of their presence.
I guess when you say that they are making your life miserable, that would be the pagan in you needing them to be... errr.... not pagan! So you can be happy again?
I guess you're right for eachother right now??
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Make a statement of insight or leave the thread alone.
Posted December 29th, 2011 by John Michael Davis in response to Why Are They Making Your Life Miserable?Your Wheaties are no good here, boring, flaky cereal that gets soggy in milk. When the milk is gone the fakes stick like crust to the side of the bowl it is difficult to remove. Please be more substantial in your post G. I know you aim to offend and stir emotional response but this was a lame attempt and as sleepy a point to make, lacking insight and clarity of complete understanding and consideration to the issue as presented. I know you have worse things to say, why are you holding back for?
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Fine Comeback! LOL
Posted December 29th, 2011 by G Campbell in response to Make a statement of insight or leave the thread alone.I am not trying to stir anything. Well, maybe your 'pagan' hypocrisy? Show you your real face? Whatever you think of pluralists, that is who you are. Because you can't be bothered to do the work of integrating your own shadow perhaps? I just pointed out the contradiction in your words. The insight is not mine to offer, it is yours to look at, if you choose to take it.
Or, you can continue with your tribal victim mentaily ans shoot me in the kneecaps again.... or whatever that was.
You won't become enlightened if you choose to cherrypick and just sit and moan about your shit, and about how other people make you miserable. Talk about boomeritis sitting in place of the chip on your shoulder? Can't handle a bit of direct criticism? Then I would say that it, again, is you who is the soggy wheatie?
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awww
Posted December 29th, 2011 by Shikha Sabharwal in response to Fine Comeback! LOL
i think so, too.
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please?
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Your Qualified to give directions on enlightenment?
Posted December 29th, 2011 by John Michael Davis in response to Fine Comeback! LOLYour making a small statement. Missing the mark completely. Using lame formulas for thinking mixed with riddles and assumptions again loosely communicating without solid analysis. what are you really saying about me.
what does boomeritis sitting in the place of the chip on your shoulder mean?
Direct criticism?
If that was criticism... I think you have ignored the point that what you did was a lame empty shallow attempt at sage insight..
I guess better a soggy wheatie than a crusted Flake, at least the prior is digested easily.
I still think you are holding back.
What is enlightenment to you?
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John
Posted December 30th, 2011 by G Campbell in response to Your Qualified to give directions on enlightenment?Hey hey.
This isn't a fight man.
From where I am sitting you look dissociated. I'm not talking in riddles. I'm talking like a person, a normal person.
One part of you hates emotional neediness, right? You just said it.
Yeah, sorreeeeyyy...I AM assuming you are genuine when you post this on a public message board for people to offer up some insight? No? Well, sorry about that if I did. Opps. My bad.
So why don't you come to terms with your own emotional, tribal neediness, just the characteristics you hate in boomers or pluralists, then you wont feel the need to moan about how they are making you 'miserable'.
THAT IS neediness at a young level of development, isn't it? Ya????
"OTHERS MAKE ME MISERABLE, I NEED THEM TO BE DIFFERENT"....
Yes or no? sounds pretty needy to me.
No problem!
No need to sort that. Just re-integrate that bit, and don't confuse it with 2nd tier thinking or whatever, eh?
We all need affirmation and we all feel bad when someone comes with another perspective. And we all get defensive. (Like you have!) That is boomeritis my friend. So just chill out and try to get some insight for your self you lazy so 'n' so. Or, don't. Its upto you isn't it? No skin off my flaky nose, I can assure you! : )
Best wishes
C
ps. Integration is, I believe, part of the enlightenment process. Or so I hear! Hell, why do we have a shadow module again??? So I guess I can give you this one piece of direction, yes. Do you have a problem with that?
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Posted December 30th, 2011 by G Campbell in response to JohnAnd I think it would be very convenient for you if I unleashed hell upon your sorry ass.
So then you can paganly put me in the box of Mr Evil, and you can stand there as Mr Nice.
But I won;t give you the satisfaction, because I would rather see an authentic self come from you instead of the phony one you are parading at the moment.
Of course, to you that might still appear as 'bad'. But from where I am sitting it is the greatest comapssion one can offer.
Being helpful isn't neccessarily the right thing to do.
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You Do not even know what you are talking about honestly.
Posted December 30th, 2011 by John Michael Davis in response to JohnSeriously G.
Thank you for all of this attention. I understand that you are working to solve something within yourself.
1. You never asked for insight into several statements that were made as to what was driving them. Because of this you jump in from a point of view that was distorted from the onset of your statements. I tried to point this out to you, BUT INVITED YOU TO SHARE ALL THAT YOU HAD TO OFFER, however did not do a very polite job of it purposely. Due to the interest I have of understanding the integrity of those who like to add fuel to fires and poor water on the flames, THIS IS THE KIND OF PERSON FROM YOUR PREVIOUS POSTING BEHAVIOR THAT I TAKE YOU FOR, TALKING ABOUT SELF PLEASURING TO LATE NIGHT TV.. It makes no sense to me why some find it so great to utilize grandstand chopping styles of intervention lacking the compassion and patience to be of true service to another living suchness as your leading entry into this maintained.
2. What did you mean by "fine comeback! LOL"
antagonistic retrogression and friendly intentions of not contest and challenge for debate of sort
3. Pagan Hypocrisy? who do you think your talking to? seriously I want an explicit answer to these questions, every one.. they are not points of rethoric thought out to upset or challenge your position like your use to using. I require complete answers and total integrity to the questions asked without deviation into insult and redirective qaundary.
4. What is enlightenment to you? can you answer the question?
5. What does boomeritis sitting in the place of the chip on your shoulder mean?
6. what is boomeritis? Explain with expamples.. i don't think you know what it is, honestly.
7. Now understand something:
Those who think of themselves as pluralistic yet are somewhat driven more by magical mythic motivations love to say that the everyone has the right to there own opinion, usually until that opinion and those opinions are all equally valid. Until you point out that though everyone has a right to a an opinion and should be given tolerance and compassion and the equal ability to embrace there point of view as their own and share it with others, it does not make every world view equal, but that those point of view that transcend and include the most competently are in fact from an integral perspective more whole and so more true that those that do not.
When you point this out to someone who believe they are enlightened and they are mythic magically boomerlisiously so enlightened they may call you a hippy hating Hitler and tell you that your Opinion is the one opinion that is invalid and wrong, vile and evil. Which was the driving experience for this initial post of the individual who posted it.
8. "OTHERS MAKE ME MISERABLE, I NEED THEM TO BE DIFFERENT".
That is your statement. It was never stated or inferred in the post you are responding to. That is your projection.
The fact is those projecting that one need to be different in order to be acceptable to them is closer to the point and your now projecting the feelings of the poster contested in the direction of the object classification for the folks You initially attacked the poster for pointing out to.... what Gives G.
"People making my life miserable was facetious".. and seems to be your tight grip foundation for discussion as though it were a power statement of deep emotional creaking.. having to remove friends from ones life for preceptorial differences does contain some sense of loss and your not knowing that and just blurting in with why you let your love ones get to you is very repulsive and somewhat inhumane, immature and childish.
9. I have a dissociation yes, and in at integral I think that is the greatest of compliments. Seriously, an ability to see all function as an objective event stripped from subjective perception of one's consciousness, being detached from one's emotion, body and immediate environmental factors not this and not that but that's just its... with delight and joy of the tones playing in the conduit of light flickers
FANTASTIC
"YOU CAN NOT PUT AN INTEGRAL INDIVIDUAL IN A FRAME AND DISMISS THEM AS INVALID - YOU WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS POINT WITHOUT THIS INSIGHT APPLIED IN PRACTICE HERE ON THIS EARTH OR ANYWHERE ELSE."
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jesus dude
Posted December 30th, 2011 by G Campbell in response to You Do not even know what you are talking about..."poor water on the flames,"
it is pour.
but you will prob say i assumed something, projected it, whatever. rudely blah blah.
Pretty solid armour you got there nervosa.
cool. did you spend all your time studying integral so you could come up with the more intellgent way to keep you ego in tact?
you know, the ego? where you are right, and everyone else is wrong, and you have the tools to and evidence now to tell them so!
Most people just say, jog on dude, and make a joke!
takes a lot less energy. LOL
cheers for the good read, i enjoyed it.
best wishes
Campbell.
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Actually
Posted December 30th, 2011 by G Campbell in response to jesus dudeFucking brilliant!
I'm gonna give you a vote!
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awww...
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If you cant agree that lower energies are bothersome then it is clear you are...
Posted December 30th, 2011 by Francesica Bontcu in response to Why Are They Making Your Life Miserable?I was just expressing the observation of what it is like to be surrounded by a lower frequency of individuals. I don't think expressing the experience is being a victim by any means at all. Stating that a groups constant state of ignoring new levels of being is not being a victim. The mass majority is sleepy with ignorance even if they know or don't it becomes hard to navigate a world that has consciously chosen to remain stable and rooted in destructive illusions .
These types like to say as their motto almost that everyone is equal and everyone's opinion is valid but when I have been around this group mentality is suddenly changes. From everyone is equal to everyone is equal except for you and your “far out notions” I think it explains the “green meme” quite perfectly. Im just pointing it out. I don't expect them to change except on their own terms in due time in their own way through the journey. As far as integrating my shadow self, thats not a problem and I always welcome what my experiences are showing me mirroring to me. This has shown me that a communication break down will always lead to a great misunderstanding where both parties lie in their own development. As far as the people I mentioned the best way to deal with this is allowing people to be where they are loving them for where they are and loving thy self where self is. Allowing change to take place and not get in the way of the amazing things that happen when we begin to transcend and go onto higher places of growth.
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Interaction
Posted November 15th, 2011 by John Michael Davisthis space needs interaction of a certain caliber
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I had something to share
Posted November 16th, 2011 by John Michael Davis in response to InteractionI don't now. nothing at all
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and you!
Posted November 16th, 2011 by Shikha Sabharwal in response to I had something to share
remember me and fight, he says
- j u s t a s y o u a r e ,
Fecto
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What is that Soppossed to mean
Posted November 15th, 2011 by nervosa in response to InteractionThis space needs more trolls... space trolls.. i have an integral multi personality order.
Integral for a determination of reason.. who owns this quarter of the forum now?
zip!
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oh!
Posted November 16th, 2011 by Shikha Sabharwal in response to What is that Soppossed to meanyou're back! yesss! oh, I'm so glad you're around!
thanks, you know, for being around..
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wait, no, i meant:
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False names I didn't realize were against the rules
Posted November 18th, 2011 by John Michael Davis in response to oh!So i used my own real name for a bit
My wife is Francesica Bontcu... thank you for hearing us both with kindness.
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I think you're wonderful
Posted November 18th, 2011 by Shikha Sabharwal in response to False names I didn't realize were against the rulesSorry if sometimes I get childish. chikd? ok. chicksd, um i don't understand. o, o i see, no. that is not reasonable.
It is my pleasure, hearing you. Thank You, who taught me how to listen, please.
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Everyone's opinion is valid except for Mine!
Posted November 15th, 2011 by Francesica BontcuA lot of people which resonate with pluralistic mentalities making my life miserable. they want everyone to have an opinion and be free and live well and open your mind until you bring up an idea or perception that challenges there fragile concept of reality. If everyone was allowed to have an opinion and be themselves without the fear of ridicule and augmentative harassment and hate filled counter active challenge to an equalitive effort. any opinion I have is offensive to these "Friends" of mine... it doesn't seem to matter every idea I have totally offends them. Especially spirituality.. they don't feel secure in what they want everyone else to believe and any alternative causes them to resist..
I can't even tell anyone what it is that causes the problem or what it is about my appraisal of reality perhaps they are coming at it from a prerational mythic place.. pagan mixed with an attempt to be pluralistic and inclusive of others but it can't really get there without abandoning the magical entrenchment they so cling to for emotional support and mental simplicity. when I strive to expand my aptitude of resonance they get angry and defensive of my striving and with temper fueled jealous fits accuse me of hating them with high end radical judgment of the worst orders...