Integral flattery

I've done this too. Where I complain about something Ken or someone else says and I say something like, "This can easily contribute to the misunderstanding of... blah, blah, blah"

This happens alot to me. And, methinks, to others. But it means something. I can almost grasp it.

Once the impulse to interpret an event is objectified, it is no longer the self. But until that impulse is objectified, it is the self and the self is victimized by passing triggers. My triggers may be different than yours, but I will be generous and offer to share mine with you! And in the interest of public relations, I will speak for the many who have no voice here yet and propose that they might very well share my triggers too, and we wouldn't want them to be victimized, would we?

Now, I'm not all beyond this. I'm deeply submersed in this confusion myself. But I'm finding my words for something that I've only been able to look at dumbly for quite some time now.

And, I'm also gonna propose that others who have PTSD might also share this trigger and I am concerned that they do not get victimized...  but people who have Trauma Reactions are stuck to a deeper and more tenacious degree than people who do not. Or! Trauma Reactions, which all of us may have one or two of, are much harder to dislodge using this "Not self" inquiry thing than simple triggers like looking at a fast-food commercial on TV. I think that's the whole idea behind "Trauma Based Programming" such as from "The Manchurian Candidate" story. So, one of my particular pet-triggers is for Trauma Survivors, and I'm willing to complain about the over simplification of getting free from such things which are often suggested by Integral folks.

I've complained about many other things during my time with Integral: the way Ken uses polemic about the Church and Dieda's sex work and various and sundry things. But I'm thinking that it's all the same thing. I'm not past being triggered about something, and I want them over there to stop pushing my buttons about it. But instead of seeing that, objectifying that, and being free from it, I think of all the other folks out there who are not free and who don't get it and will be provoked to misunderstanding.

Does this make any sense?

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I haven't seen an integral test yet, perhaps because I haven't had the time or the money for retreats. I've got to say it reminds me of Scientology tests which I'd think would be a negative association. I think the models used in the book Integral Psychology, if you simply have to get developmental, seem much more interesting and less of a simplified packaged commodity that Integral has increasingly become. I guess the question is how we could compare the intelligence of a Wall Street broker and a social worker. And why, when we think of 'green meme intelligence' do we think of the cartoon caricature of a 'sensitivity trainer' rather than semiotic theoreticians or system theorists. Its a very rare occasion when Wilber goes into these subjects with any real depth these days.

Anyway, there was a study a few years ago that showed the average person believes they have above average intelligence. Maybe we should just let people keep believing that.