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A New Economy
After debating the Venus Project, the gold standard, and other economic ideas I consider misguided, I figured I'd put some of my own thoughts on the table for some of the innovative economic ideas that I've studied, and believe would be helpful in reshaping our world in a more sustainable, life-affirming, and integral direction.
Land Reform
In the late 1800's, at the height of the Industrial Revolution, a journalist-turned-economist named Henry George sought to investigate why it was that poverty seemed to persist or even get worse even amidst the greatest economic growth the world had ever seen up to that point. What he found is that those gains in wealth and innovation were privatized and monopolized in the form of land rent. Now, when I say "rent," I'm using it in a slightly different manner than what is meant when one speaks of renting an apartment, though the two concepts overlap. Rent, as the term is used in economics, is essentially the unearned increment of wealth derived from owning a finite resource without having to apply labor to it. The recent housing bubble provides an excellent illustration: People earned obscene amounts of wealth from buying properties, sitting on them, and then selling them at a higher price than they paid. The increase in price was driven by the fact that land is fixed in supply, and if the supply doesn't change in response to demand, as other goods do, the result is an increase in price, which occurs through no effort on the part of the landowner.
So the land market is driven exclusively by demand, since land is not a manufactured good(as Will Rogers once said, "Buy land. They're not making any more of it."). So what drives the demand for land? Well, in the case of a housing bubble, one factor is the speculative potential of making a profit off of it, which is in turn driven by increasing demand. Thus, the more demand there is for land, the more it accelerates that demand. You can well imagine how this would have a destabilizing effect on the economy(in fact, you don't need to imagine it -- we've experienced it in the last couple years). Other forms of speculation which drive economic instability, such as derivatives and debt instruments, lie on a foundation of increasing rents. Furthermore, speculation in land contributes to urban sprawl by holding areas of land out of use or underused, leading to a sort of "leapfrog" effect.
Aside from the speculative demand for land, the main driver of demand is that people need a place to live and work. And not all such places are equal. A place that has high crime, few public services, poor access to jobs, and environmental degradation is going to be pretty cheap. Meanwhile, places that have healthy infrastructure, lots of jobs, clean environments, and safe communities are going to be more expensive. Essentially, the health and value of a community can largely be measured by the value of land. However, because those areas which have abundant wealth will tend to see a further increase in wealth via the increase in land values, we run into the Matthew effect. ("For to all those who have, more will be given, and they will have an abundance; but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away." -- Matthew 25:29)
Furthermore, the advance of land rents has the effect of depressing wages. Since keeping high-demand land out of use drives demand up further and thus increases rent, those businesses who own the most valuable land have a perverse incentive to underuse the productive capacity of their land. Only those businesses at the margin of production who receive no rental income find it profitable to use the full productive capacity of their land. This difference between full productive capacity and the profitable level of production under these perverse incentives ends up reducing the demand for labor (and capital) as rents increase, thus keeping wages and employment down (not necessarily in absolute terms, but relative to the growth of the rest of the economy). As an economic bubble grows, more and more of it is driven by rental income while production stagnates, until eventually there isn't enough production to drive further growth, and the bubble bursts.
Henry George proposed a solution which is as radically genius as it is simple: tax the full unimproved value of land. Whereas other taxes tend to increase the price of the commodity they tax, this tax would actually lower the cost of land by eliminating its speculative demand while not affecting supply (remember the Will Rogers quote I mentioned earlier). However, the rent that did remain would be put to use for public purposes, on things like education, health care, and other important infrastructure. Since these things would raise the rent according to their value, they would essentially become self-financing. Communal wealth would be paid for by the communities that benefit from it, in proportion to the benefit received. Taxes would also never have to be raised or lowered again, as the amount paid would adjust automatically according to the increase in human welfare. Wages would rise and unemployment would fall, as the demand for labor would be filled by the need to put land to its most productive use. Furthermore, there would be an understanding that the land belongs to all of us as a basic right, not just a privileged few who can afford it. Unlike Marxism, this system recognizes the difference between earned and unearned income, and mobilizes the free market to work more efficiently and effectively, rather than abolishing it altogether.
Monetary Reform
Many people falsely believe that our money is created by the government. While this is mostly true of the roughly 5% of the money supply that exists as physical dollars and coins (though even here, it's not quite as clear-cut as you might believe), but the vast majority of money exists purely as numbers in a database, such as your deposit statement from your bank. When you deposit a check in your account, banks are able to lend out a portion of that money, depending on the reserve ratio. A reserve ratio of 10% means that out of a deposit of $100, the bank can lend out $90. Or, at least, that's how people imagine it to work. In reality, the $90 that was lent out still remains on the bank's ledger as a deposit, which means that the bank can lend out an additional 90% of that $90, or $81, of which they are able to lend out an additional 90%, or $72.90, and so on. So, with a $100 deposit, the amount lent out is $90 + $81 + $72.90 + $65.61 + $59.05 + $53.15, etc. Thus, in the process of issuing loans, banks are actually creating money out of debt. In addition, they are charging interest on that debt. Where does the money to pay off the interest come from? From more debt, of course. Thus, we have a continuous cycle of musical chairs, where so long as the music keeps playing, there's still money to pay off existing debts. That "music" is growth, which, as I mentioned earlier, can no longer sustain itself when production can no longer sustain the increase in rents. Thus, when economic crises occur, investments come crashing and burning, debts can't be repaid, and money is literally destroyed, creating deflation, or at best, disinflation (an abrupt drop in inflation leading to economic stagnation). When these loans are spent on speculative activities rather than on wealth creation, the impact of economic crises becomes more profound.
Meanwhile, when government needs money to spend, they can either tax it (almost always an unpopular move) or they can borrow it by selling debt. Most of the American government debt used to be owned by American citizens, but as the need for money has increased along with globalization, more and more of it has gone abroad, such that countries like China own a large portion of our debt. In situations like the present economic crisis, where the economy is stagnant, it is often necessary to increase spending without increasing taxes in order to stimulate the economy. However, under the current system, doing so means borrowing more money, thus increasing the national debt. The famous economist John Maynard Keynes proposed that borrowing be increased during recessions, and the debt be paid off during more prosperous times(this latter part is often forgotten by his critics), thus reducing the extremes of the boom-bust cycle. However, introducing austerity measures during prosperous times (often compared to taking away the punchbowl at a party) tends to be politically unpopular, particularly among the Wall Street investors who exercise a disproportionate influence on policy in this country. Thus, we get situations like our previous president continuing to borrow and spend while cutting taxes regardless of the condition of the economy. Meanwhile, our current president is faced with the need for more economic stimulus amidst protests that we can't afford all this debt.
However, this is a false dichotomy. The government has the Constitutional authority to create its own money debt-free, as it did under Lincoln with the Civil War greenbacks. This new money could be spent on valuable infrastructure, which would ensure that increases in money are tied to increases in wealth(thus preventing inflation), as well as increasing rents with which the money could be paid back(see previous section). Since the money is not borrowed, there is no debt incurred, and any excess inflation will find its way into land rents which are taxed away.
However, such a system remains in jeopardy so long as banks hold the power to create money. They don't like competition, and their ability to create money from debt is the source of their great power and influence on our society. Take away all they have but leave them with this power, and within a generation they will have it all back. Thus, our system of fractional reserve banking must be abolished. What should replace it? The system that everyone thinks exists now -- one in which they lend out deposits, but do not multiply them by sleight-of-hand. The money would be created by government, and then circulated through public expenditures which would go out into the private sector. Banks would have every incentive to seek out deposits in order to make loans.
But what of the interest problem we mentioned? One option would simply be for the government to anticipate the annual interest rate, and create money accordingly. However, the German economist Silvio Gesell proposed something even more clever. Wealth, he noted, is subject to the laws of entropy -- in other words, it rots. Debt, on the other hand, only gets bigger over time. What if instead we had a kind of money that "rotted" like the goods we buy with it? He proposed a system in which currency notes had to be stamped on a weekly basis with a stamp worth a small percentage of the bill's face value, such that on an annual basis it would cost about 5% of its value to hold on to it. This would make money a hot potato for both the holders of money, who would be eager to spend it, or the banks, who would be eager to lend it, even at zero interest(since the depreciating value would essentially constitute a negative interest rate). This would keep money constantly circulating, so that the economy as a whole would require less money.
Steady-State
As I've mentioned already, our current economic system relies upon unlimited growth. However, such growth cannot be sustained indefinitely in a system of finite resources. Eventually, it runs up against ecological limits, and the results can be ugly. Non-renewable resources cannot be replaced, and renewable resources cannot continue to be used up at a higher rate than their rate of renewal. Furthermore, ecological waste sinks cannot break down and dispose of waste at an ever-increasing rate. And yet, unlimited growth requires exactly these laws of physics to be suspended.
The growth we're talking about here is growth in throughput. Throughput is the flow of low-entropy raw materials from the ecosystem through the economy and into the high-entropy ecological waste sinks. The need for ever-increasing throughput is driven by the fierce speculative competition for land and resources and by the impossible contract of debt-based money financed by more debt.
A major factor is also the fact that resources in their natural state are valued at nothing, and only once they are extracted and used in the economy do they have a value assigned to them. This is a serious accounting error. The ecosystem performs services for us in its natural state that would be prohibitively expensive, if not impossible, to replace with technological services. There is a concept in economics called opportunity cost, in which the cost of something is what you give up to get it. And yet few economists have bothered to apply this concept to ecosystem services.
In order to have long-term, sustainable prosperity, throughput must be kept at a steady rate. Non-renewable resources must not be used up at a faster rate than they can be replaced with renewable alternatives. Renewable resources must not be used up faster than their rate of renewal. Waste and pollution must not be generated faster than the environment's capacity to absorb it.
To accomplish this, we need to think not just in terms of determining the optimum price on the use of resources, but actually determining the optimum scale. We do have a precedent for scale-based policies. It's known as cap-and-trade. A limited number of permits are auctioned off for the extraction of some resource, and prices are set by the market as demand adjusts to this rationed supply. The revenue from auctioning these resources can then be distributed evenly among the population, in recognition of everyone's equal right to the earth.
When the idea of ending economic growth is brought up, it sounds to many people as if we are talking about the end of prosperity or of economic improvement. However, we must draw a distinction here between growth and development. Growth is quantitative, while development is qualitative. Growth simply means more economic activity is going on, whereas development means that actual quality of life is improving for the average citizen. Herman Daly coined the termed "uneconomic growth" to describe growth which actually works as an impediment to development by gouging resources and producing waste to the point that any increase in economic activity is offset by these negative effects. He points out that growth becomes uneconomic long before it reaches its ecological limits. Unfortunately, many neoclassical economists continue to think that the only way out of any problem is to grow our way out of it. We can only hope that their paradigm dies out before it kills us all.
I guess that's enough for now. I'll probably post a part II sometime in the future. Thanks for reading.
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Agree
Posted August 28th, 2010 by trwiley in response to As I Was Tip-Toeing Thru the 20 Tenets Today...Yes, we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water, right? There are certainly some problems with Zeitgies/Venus Project, but that's where I think we come in, to patch those holes, and to build on what's good and positive about the movement. And we need to see beyond what we think is possible in the existing paradigm.
I do believe in the powers of eros and emergence, and that these concepts will continue to push/pull forward, if indeed they are good and true and beautiful.....and life-affirming. If we brush them aside, we are brushing aside evolution itself.
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Questions about proposed New Economy
Posted August 28th, 2010 by trwileyI think you pose some interesting propositions that could be a step in the right direction, at least in the current paradigm. However, I’m not sure they would go far enough to fully address some of the root problems of our current monetary system.
Land Reform - First, I have a question regarding a tax on the unimproved value of the land. By imposing a tax on land that is doing nothing but sitting there, you are incentivizing development of that land even though it may not be needed. An who determines what the “most productive use” of that land is?
Monetary Reform - With the concept of having money “rot” like the goods we buy with it, aren’t you also incentivizing a mad dash to hurry up and invest in something, or develop something, or purchase something tangible before it’s too late? Isn’t this just accelerating consumption?
Cap and Trade - Given how destructive and corruptible our monetary system has been I’m not sure I would want to monetize climate change. Have you seen the Story of Cap and Trade
I agree with you other comments about fractional reserve banking and the Federal Reserve.
However, I have some questions as to whether your proposals address some of the root problems, as I see it, inherent in our money-based economic system:
Does what you propose address:
• Cyclical consumption - the need for people to consume, which creates more jobs, so people can continue to consume, and so on…
• Excessive consumption of resources - will there continue to be incentive to build inferior products, product duplication, planned obsolescence, continual and wasteful product upgrades (see Story of Stuff)
• Distortion of values - the profit motive leads to mistrust, greed, corruption, competitiveness, scarcity-thinking, short-term thinking, etc.
• Competition - does it foster separation and polarization, or the collaboration that is needed to solve global problems?
• Scarcity - would your proposed changes affect the fundamental nature of the system, which is not only based on scarcity but actually creates scarcity?
• Wealth Disparity - I’m not clear on how your proposed changes would fix the great economic stratification in the world.
• Scarcity to Abundance - I don’t see how the changes you propose would foster humanity’s much needed move from “deficiency needs” to “being needs”, where instead of living in scarcity we transition to abundance.
• Nature vs. Nurture - Does the monetary changes you propose continue to reinforce the “culturally-created self” (separateness, money-motivated, competitive, self-interested, scarcity-driven, mindlessly consumptive, aberrent behavior, man-is-inherently-evil) or will it allow for our natural humanity to emerge (man-is-inherently-good, internally motivated, collaborative, oneness, etc.)
• Technological Unemployment - will jobs, despite the job creation you discuss, continue to be replaced by technology? Will man continue to spend most of his life toiling in mundane jobs, many of which contribute nothing of real value to society, or which could easily be automoted?
• Life-affirming Systems - does what you propose significantly change our monetary system so that is totally life affirming, meaning that it is totally in alignment with, and supportive of, nature and the planet and humanity and all sentient beings and all global resources? Does it foster life, unlike the current systems, which have put us on our current self-destructive trajectory.
• The basic requirements of life to all citizens - do your proposed changes recognize, and support, the global commons and basic needs of all humans — clean water, healthy food, renewable energy, clean air, shelter, education.
Given the path that we are on, and the potentially urgent timeline, I think that what’s called for is not merely “translations” —horizontal, incremental changes to our existing structures, in an established paradigm. But rather “transformations”…new, evolutionary and vertical changes, into an entirely new paradigm. Our current systems are breaking down, as they are not able to handle the complexity that our existing consciousness has created. As we experience further break-downs, I think this will lead to break-thru’s, not just with technology, but, hopefully, with our consciousness and our worldviews as well. If this happens -- and it could happen relatively quickly -- I think we will see, as I’ve heard Don Beck say, the simplicity on the other side of complexity. And I would add to this….abundance on the other side of scarcity.
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Posted August 30th, 2010 by Jonathan Cobb in response to Questions about proposed New EconomyThank you for the response. I will address your concerns as best I can.
"Land Reform - First, I have a question regarding a tax on the unimproved value of the land. By imposing a tax on land that is doing nothing but sitting there, you are incentivizing development of that land even though it may not be needed. An who determines what the “most productive use” of that land is?"
Taxing the unimproved value of land incentivizes the use of land that is owned. By allowing urban land to lie fallow, the current system merely encourages sprawl. More urban development means less land gets used overall, because the most economically productive land gets used to its optimum potential. As for who determines the most productive use, that's the beauty of it -- no one has to make that determination. The land value tax fixes the market signal so that profit-maximizing capitalists will have the incentive to invest as much in labor as the land will support.
"Monetary Reform - With the concept of having money “rot” like the goods we buy with it, aren’t you also incentivizing a mad dash to hurry up and invest in something, or develop something, or purchase something tangible before it’s too late? Isn’t this just accelerating consumption?"
It will change consumption patterns for sure, but not in a negative way. It will lead to a preference for long-term goods over disposables. It will also ensure that savings are done in the form of investments in wealth-creation, rather than laying idle in a bank account. In discussions about the stimulus, you may have noticed some pundits talking about how spending on social programs has a greater stimulus effect than tax cuts for the rich, since the poor are more likely to go out and spend the money. This is because money that is sitting idly by is not doing its job. Money's role as a means of exchange is held hostage by its role as a means of savings. By having people save money, they require that more money be made for the purchase of wares. If, on the other hand, the money has the same cost of holding onto as the wares it is meant to purchase, then less money is needed in the first place. Thus, there would be no more consumption than there is currently, but those looking to build up savings would have to find a more appropriate venue. Or, they could keep it in the bank, and then banks would have the same "use it or lose it" incentive, prompting more lending to business owners.
It is fallacy to think that all consumption is bad. What we need to do is address the misuse of natural resources, as well as chasing of money as if it were something intrinsically valuable. If we address these problems, then consumption can be reoriented in a more sustainable direction.
"Cap and Trade - Given how destructive and corruptible our monetary system has been I’m not sure I would want to monetize climate change. Have you seen the Story of Cap and Trade"
Perhaps my citation of cap and trade was misleading. When it comes to climate, I actually favor a gradually increasing carbon tax, since the optimum scale for fossil fuel usage is zero. However, there are other contexts where a cap and trade system works great. The issuing of hunting and fishing permits is an example of a cap and trade system. The optimum scale for these things can be determined, and then permits auctioned off based on that supply.
"Cyclical consumption - the need for people to consume, which creates more jobs, so people can continue to consume, and so on…"
This is not a problem in the fatalist way that you frame it. People only need to consume the wares that are being produced. The ideal economic balance is where consumption equals production. This condition is known as full employment. It is precisely because we don't have full employment that advertisers have to convince people who do have money to buy crap that they don't need, so as to fill the gap in demand. Once we have full employment and less inequality, we can reduce work hours and increase leisure time, thus reducing the need for money.
"Excessive consumption of resources - will there continue to be incentive to build inferior products, product duplication, planned obsolescence, continual and wasteful product upgrades (see Story of Stuff)"
Under the steady-state economy section, I mentioned something about green taxes, where environmental costs are placed on the producer, and then passed on to the consumer. What I was saying about cap and trade applies to situations where there is an optimal scale to a particular activity. In some cases a cap will be more beneficial. In other cases a tax may do. By incorporating the full environmental cost into the products, it encourages sustainable practices such as recycling, and discourages wasteful practices such as planned obsolescence.
"Distortion of values - the profit motive leads to mistrust, greed, corruption, competitiveness, scarcity-thinking, short-term thinking, etc."
In some cases, yes. In other cases, it leads to efficient allocation of resources and technological innovation. It all depends on how we incentivize resource use. The profit motive (and competition, which you unfairly condemn) creates positive outcomes in most cases, and where it doesn't, those incentives can be fixed.
"Competition - does it foster separation and polarization, or the collaboration that is needed to solve global problems?"
The Greek roots for the word "com-pete" means "strive together." Competition is not about biting each other's heads off, but striving for excellence. Things like monopolization are anti-competitive, and need to be fixed through policy. Competition is vital to a healthy economy.
"Scarcity - would your proposed changes affect the fundamental nature of the system, which is not only based on scarcity but actually creates scarcity?"
By making speculation in resources impossible, the problem of scarcity is thereby solved. It becomes prohibitively costly to hold resources out of use which could help people, and therefore eliminates the incentive to create artificial scarcity.
"Wealth Disparity - I’m not clear on how your proposed changes would fix the great economic stratification in the world."
Then you have simply not been paying attention. I've addressed this more in my post than any issue other than the environment.
"Scarcity to Abundance - I don’t see how the changes you propose would foster humanity’s much needed move from “deficiency needs” to “being needs”, where instead of living in scarcity we transition to abundance. "
It would resolve the wealth disparity created by the monopolization of resources.
"Nature vs. Nurture - Does the monetary changes you propose continue to reinforce the “culturally-created self” (separateness, money-motivated, competitive, self-interested, scarcity-driven, mindlessly consumptive, aberrent behavior, man-is-inherently-evil) or will it allow for our natural humanity to emerge (man-is-inherently-good, internally motivated, collaborative, oneness, etc.)"
It would create a prosperous enough society that higher stages of development can emerge. To assume that we can all just skip to such a stage without going through the former stage is to ignore everything that Spiral Dynamics teaches us.
"Technological Unemployment - will jobs, despite the job creation you discuss, continue to be replaced by technology? Will man continue to spend most of his life toiling in mundane jobs, many of which contribute nothing of real value to society, or which could easily be automoted?"
By reaching full employment, menial jobs can continue to be replaced by more fulfilling jobs as technology advances. Job replacement would not be a problem when there is an educated society with relatively little wealth disparity.
"Life-affirming Systems - does what you propose significantly change our monetary system so that is totally life affirming, meaning that it is totally in alignment with, and supportive of, nature and the planet and humanity and all sentient beings and all global resources? Does it foster life, unlike the current systems, which have put us on our current self-destructive trajectory."
Of course. It bridges a disconnect we have with nature, and puts the economy back in touch with the ecosystem. It fosters life by supporting abundance, while also respecting ecological limits.
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Make it happen!
Posted August 29th, 2010 by Jeffery SmithHi, Jonathan;
Here in Portland OR, a group of us are working to get the ideas you write about implemented. You ought to join us! If you like, email me at jjs at geonomics.org.
(Your grandfather was once a member. Cliff, your uncle, is a sort of friend.)
All the best,
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Not just unused "owned" land, but goods and waste
Posted September 1st, 2010 by Kriste BrushaberWhen I was a child I wondered why new homes and buildings were being constructed when there was plenty of empty ones available, then subsequently watched the beautiful foothills of the Eastern slope of the Colorado Rockies get torn up and seeded with poor quality cookie-cutter homes without self-sustaining community planning. I wondered who was buying the millions of new model cars every year, and what was happening to all the used ones that still worked fine. I wondered what the use was for all the little plastic trinkets you see in stores (not just "toys" for children but includes many of them), yet these things were manufactured giving some people jobs, used resources (raw materials, land, energy...).
What would happen if we had to order everything we wanted to buy outside of basic food necessities? For example, if new cars and recreational vehicles had to be ordered, so if you really needed one immediately, you would have to buy a used model? Or even today, if everyone refused to buy a new car until an affordable, fully electric model was standard with technology that does and has existed for years (and in the meantime just drive a used vehicle)?
What would happen if we all had to pay to dispose of waste by the pound and cost relative to the type of waste?
What would happen if it was prohibitively expensive to store excess stuff due to land value (including giant warehouses filled with poorly made or unnecessary "cheap" merchandise and storage units that people rent because they accumulate too much)?
What would happen if people who own larger houses with rarely used or unused rooms opened their homes (and hearts) to share with other individuals, families or extended members of their own family such as elderly parents?
What would happen if consumers just stopped consuming unnecessary, unhealthy, wasteful products, and used that money to purchase only the few well made, sustainable, recyclable, local as possible, responsibly and humanely sourced items we need, sharing the use of larger items that are only used occasionally or recreationally? This is the only way the cycle will truly be broken and reinvented. No government has the ability to "fix" this now. It starts with every individual, family, and community. It is literally simple supply and demand.
Of course, this is part of living an integral life. Therefore, entities like Integral Life are driving forces of the change we must individually and collectively embody for economic (and all other) problems to dissolve.
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Great ideas
Posted September 1st, 2010 by Richard EnglandThis is a very interesting post. Your thoughts are so important as fodder for the further emergence of a more integral economics. I am looking forward to Part 2 and want to encourage you to continue developing this dialogue. If you have the calling to do this in a professional capacity, My God how the world could use more of this. My passion is ecology and ecosystem restoration. And I see what I am doing as important, but insignificant compared to the watershed shift that can happen with a reframing of economics as it currently exists. Just my sense of it.
If you don't follow Terry Patten's blog, I think you might like checking it out. His latest is on Evolutionary Activism. I want to pass it on because I found it tremendously inspiring and think that the work you are doing is very in line with what he is saying. Here it is: http://www.integralheart.com/blog
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A couple of related resources
Posted September 4th, 2010 by Durwin FosterThank you for this!
A couple of related resources, and one point of positive conjunction.
The two resources are the postcarbon institute, and the Transition movement.
The point of positive conjunction, I believe, is the growing disaffection with the education system that young males are experiencing, plus the high unemployment rates of mature males (3 to 1 lay offs in the US males over females in the last recession). If we can leverage this discouragement in service of positive economic and environmental change, we would be wise, I think!
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As I Was Tip-Toeing Thru the 20 Tenets Today...
Posted August 25th, 2010 by Jennifer GroveI noticed this:
"...attractors, in other words, are examples of the regimes or organizing forces of social holons and their inherent teleological pull to pattern (without which a holon would simply not exist). Of particular interest are "bifurcations," which consist of the shift from one type of attractor to another. 'Models with catastrophic bifurcations (conducing from turbulent to newly ordered states through the reconfiguration of the attractors) simulate rapid evolutionary leaps with the greatest fidelity. The significant simulations occur when dynamic systems are destabilized and pass through a chaotic phase on the way toward essentially new - and in practice unpredictable - steady states.'
...these types of transformations (not merely translations) generate 'a statistically significant tendency toward greater complexity and a higher level of organization. The system leaps to a new plateau and thus becomes more dynamic and more autonomous in its milieu.' So that, finally, these factors converge to 'push bifurcating systems up the ladder of the evolutionary hierarchy' - that is holarchy."
That is Ken quoting some from Lazlo.
This is a legitimate way to go up. Zeitgeist may not seem workable as we are looking at it now, but neither was the current system before it was tried.
I haven't read your thing yet. It's gonna take me some time to do that, but I needed to put this bit in now while its fresh in my mind. I've pretty much burnt out my brain with reading today. It's really hard for me.
It just seems to me that the Zeitgeist idea can be played with until it is workable and that the immense pile of malfunctions created by the old system is exerting a VERY strong pull on our search for solutions towards it. It won't be brushed aside easily.
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