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Discussion on "Bald Ambition"

 I was able to find no posts discussing Bald Ambition, in which Jeff Meyerhoff critiques the work of Ken Wilber. So I decided to make a post of my own to discuss the book and the reactions people had to it. I’ll preface this discussion by confiding that I’m a busy, 21 year old, second year medical student. So by academic standards, I likely did not give enough time/energy to reading the novel or formulating this response. Nor do I have enough expertise or experience to comment on these matters with much authority. I’ll also note that if a discussion of this topic already exists, then I will delete this post and just take my thoughts to the proper place. Normal.dotm 0 0 1 1288 7346 Kent State University 61 14 9021 12.0 0 false 18 pt 18 pt 0 0 false false false

 

That being said, I’ll start by saying that this forum is probably going to contain the harshest critics of the book, and that I would probably agree with some of those criticisms. I’ll start with problems I had with the book and list them by chapter. I will again note that I’m only 21 and not even studying these issues in my schooling, so take my musings with a grain of salt :)

 

HOLONS:

            Here Meyerhoff argued extensively about the definition of a holon and Wilber’s “20 Tenents” concerning holons. He had many specific examples (where Wilber’s definitions didn’t hold up) and sources to strengthen his arguments. I found myself dismissing a lot of these arguments as quibbles and internally applying Wilber’s “It’s a map” argument. If you make the map too specific, you compromise its usefulness. If you try to apply general definitions to specific examples, problems are obviously going to pop up. Meyerhoff did show that Wilber’s “absolute” definitions and tenets did not hold up in all cases. But the core implications and usefulness of the holon concept to Integral Theory was left unscathed. For example, we can still maintain that cells come together to form a higher being in humans. We can then take a leap and suggest the possibility that humans could one day do the same. The methods of this would be debatable, but many believe it is possible by tapping into our shared consciousness, spirit. (the legitimacy of this statement is a WHOLE other debate that at the end of the day relies on your mastery of meditation).

 

INDIVIDUAL CONSCIOUSNESS:

            The biggest critique here attacked Wilber’s sources. Meyerhoff claimed that Wilber sometimes did not properly represent the people he was quoting and also did not properly represent “orienting generalizations” of the field. He used this to call the developmental scale that Wilber often uses into question (blue—orange—green—teal). He especially calls into doubt the existence of post-conventional thinking (Wilber’s yellow?) by citing experts in the field. In one sense these are legitimate criticisms. There are likely instances where Wilber uses scholars that have other interpretations that he doesn’t mention. There are likely passages Wilber writes that lead the reader to believe that there is more consensus than he lets on. But let’s be real here, that’s going to happen with any book that tries to make a statement. If we are being intellectually honest, it is one of the jobs of the reader to seek out dissenting opinions.

Also, if Wilber’s claims that only 2% of the population being integral are true, then wouldn’t it make sense that the positions Wilber uses might often be the minority? That the majority might doubt the “existence” of a post-conventional stage? And finally, most people do at least agree that human consciousness develops. There was a time in history when the bible was the leading edge of humanity, and most would agree that we’ve developed beyond that stage. Someday in the future we’ll look at the center of gravity today the same way we currently look at the dark ages. It only follows that there is some human development that is beyond the status quo, and that it would probably be a worthwhile pursuit to investigate it.

 

…..THE REST OF THE BOOK:

            Honestly, the rest of book mostly centered on the debate of pluralism and whether Wilber had properly dealt with it. Meyerhoff continued attacking Wilber’s use of quotes and establishing “orienting generalizations” of different fields. He added claims that Wilber had not properly refuted the arguments of pluralists. Meyerhoff claimed that Wilber’s “self contradiction” attack of pluralists was tired and weak, and that Wilber merely caricatured the pluralist viewpoint to knock down a straw man. I’m certainly entering a long-standing debate here, and totally willing to accept the consequences :). I’m 100% for respecting the integrity of all viewpoints. But I’m also interested in guiding my life in an informed and purposeful fashion, which is hard to do when the definition of a “good life” changes based on where you were born.

 In Meyerhoff’s “A Different Path” chapter he attempts to offer his alternative. He seems merely offer the insight that when we offer reasons for our views, eventually we reach a point where the reason we hold our views is totally arbitrary, and is thus held for psychological (instead of rational) reasons. He also asserts that we should be more concerned with understanding our opponents and our own positions (instead of obtaining absolute truth), and focus more on “leading a good life.” These are both great insights, but I was left feeling greatly short of an alternative to Integral Theory (my biggest problem with the book). His psychological insight is dead on. But when he says, “lead a good life”, he ignores the fact that he’s been spouting pluralism for the last eight chapters. One perspective’s good life is another’s atrocity.

We can’t give up on pursuing an integral perspective that appreciates, but ranks perspectives according to their contribution to humanity’s common goal (highly debatable, but the enlightenment of all sentient beings seems a decent working hypothesis). Yes, at the end of the day we will have to somewhat arbitrarily pick the common goal of humanity in order to integrate all perspectives towards achieving it. But if we don’t decide on some common goal, then (as cliché as it is) we are left in flatland. We are not able to discern the differences between one perspective’s constructed “good life” compared to another’s. I know my analysis is simplistic, but I found that a large portion of Meyerhoff’s criticisms hinged on whether you accepted Wilber’s refutation of pluralism. I took Wilber’s side on this one, because I think pluralism makes it difficult to maintain with any crediblity that you are leading a “good life”. I would like to think that if I was born in another country, that I could potentially reach the same conclusions and guide my life in roughly the same fashion. With pluralism, humanity is fragmented in our apprehension of meaning and purpose in life. With Integral, we can unite our perspectives into some common goal.

 

CONCLUSION:

Overall, I thought the book did contain useful insights that should be included into Integral Theory. I think its fundamental purpose was to make people aware that Wilber is not the ultimate arbiter of truth. I’m sure there are people out there that just take Wilber’s word as law. He’s so damn articulate and knowledgeable that I often find myself in this trap. The book helps to show that he makes mistakes just like us, he takes liberties he probably shouldn’t sometimes, and he might mislead the reader about the unanimous nature of his claims. Ultimately, the book did not shake my belief in the core tenets of integral theory. And while it did ground me some in my “Wilber is always right” complex, I still greatly respect the man and resonate with much of what he says. Because much of the book’s criticisms hinged on the pluralism/integral debate, I found much of it unconvincing.

 

A few minor side-notes

 

1.     I thought it was interesting that Meyerhoff accused Wilber of using the same arguments over and over again. I found myself becoming quite tired of his “Orienting Generalization” and “Psychological foundation of belief” arguments in their respective chapters :)

2.     If you TOTALLY disagree with Ken Wilber based on this book, then do you think that some integral theory should be pursued? Do you disagree with Ken Wilber, or integral theory?

3.     I realize the book is somewhat dated. I’m almost sure that Meyerhoff’s four quadrant critique was addressed by Wilber including zones in his four quadrant model.

4.     I found it strange that Meyerhoff never engaged Wilber in a direct debate. Considering how much time, research, and energy he clearly put in to the novel, it would only make sense to make the time for even a one hour recorded phone conversation. Especially since Wilber claims that many of his critics misrepresent his positions and don’t engage him in direct dialogue.

5.     I realize that this post will lose much of its meaning if you haven’t actually read bald ambition. The link is here. http://integrallife.com/node/add/blog-post

6.     I didn’t like how long the book was. This was probably because I only took 5 or 6 “good” criticisms out of it. So a lot of it I found to be fluff or repetition. 

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Hi Justin, thanks for your careful reflections on these complex issues regarding Wilber's philosophy. It is indeed a difficult subject, because Wilber's work is so wide-reaching. It's his great "strength" and also his achilles heel. Wilber has always been a bit reluctant, perhaps due to his nature, for talking with those who would disagree with him. Probably out of impatience, coupled with the sheer volumes of his work. This is not to say Wilber is right in the end, but his books serve him like labyrinthian castles that make it difficult for those who disagree to approach him in open discussion. I've always found this to be an unfortunate and limiting aspect to his work. 

Although I haven't read Bald Ambition, I was curious to hear someone's thoughts on it and see if it was worth checking out. I downloaded a few chapters on my Kindle and hope to peruse through them sometime this summer. In my previous encounters with Meyerhoff's articles on Integral World, I can definitely agree that I smell a strong whiff of emotional distaste for Wilber's work. A strange love-hate relationship exists on that site, while I think a far more constructive challenge would be to simply create an open forum where alternative methodologies, alongside critiques of Wilber's work, may stand. Perhaps, even challenges to Wilber's work and entirely different integral "lineages." The word is not yet set that Wilber will be carrying forward the Integral Philosophy, only that he has been influenced by the classical luminary texts of Sri Aurobindo and Jean Gebser.

Having read a good chunk of Wilber's work, and then having gone back and read some of the original texts Wilber claims to understand, I personally became weary and skeptical about the captivating and self-assured style of his writing. If you read it alone, it can be very convincing. But there's a lot that Wilber missed in Ever-Present Origin, as well as The Life Divine, and his other synthesis, say of postmodernism and pluralism, are contestable. This is why I think dialogue and communication with other scholars, without resorting to, "he's just too well read and too well-written to bother with them," is a self-destructive statement.

An interesting critique of Wilber's work (among others) is included in Revisioning Transpersonal Theory: A Participatory Vision of Human Spirituality by Jorge Ferrer. This is jumping into the jaws of the dragon, however, as it's the subject of great debate. Is Wilber's mapping system an issue? It's a big map, and it's technically able to contain every perspective possible within it. But is that the problem? We know the map is not the territory, but are there different kinds of maps? Has anyone analyzed the map itself? Is it a problem that Wilber's AQAL system is a closed map, rather than an open one? Meaning, it is infinitely expansive in that it contain everything within itself; it can add additional lines, levels, waves, etc - but it is still contained within a singular, albeit sophisticated AQAL umbrella system. Additional stages can "clip" on like pegs and intersubjective perspectives can be placed together in endless combinations.  

It's this last point I've been wondering about lately: is a theory of everything essential to an integral understanding? Is there anyway for the maps themselves to be process-oriented, and what would that look like?

Ultimately, and this might be categorized as a pluralist answer, I wonder if more participatory, dialogue-oriented open systems to discuss the "meta," "planetary," and "integral" would do us more good at this time. And I wonder if closed, all-inclusive systems are actually a thing of the past. Wilber himself being a kind of last-hurrah, imagining the future with the intellectual maps of the past. A halfway point for something far more dynamic and ultimately inclusive for other modes of participatory, rather than abstract AQAL-eye expression. This is what I'm hoping for. It just bothers me Wilber does not engage in a participatory dialogue with other scholars, even if they disagree. The debates themselves, in my eyes and ears, would be more fruitful than dismissal. 

Ultimately, staying within agreeing communities without learning how to communicate with those who disagree, is a failure of integral communication and is self-defeating for the integral movement. And I would very much like to see "integral" succeed in being a sophisticated understanding for a 21st century, planetary civilization.

At any rate, thanks for taking the time to read through these ramblings. All the best, Justin, and much gratitude for sharing your insights on these issues. They're very important to discuss.

-Jeremy J.

PS: A little addendum. I'm aware that some see Wilber's theory as the opposite of a closed system. Rather than an umbrella, they might see it more like a mandala. But mandala's are utilizing a kind of consciousness that is deeply mythopoeic and imaginal. So I question the ability to say it is an exact fit. I'm not saying I can't understand why this could be considered an "open system," however, it is difficult for me to believe this because it is, ultimately, a self-referential map. It is still a singular system, and a specific way to embody, portray, and explore the outer, inner, subjective, intersubjective, objective, and inter-objective realities. They are neatly classified, but I question the idea that this is the only kind of map of reality we can assume. We also have to consider the way a map influences our perception of reality in the same way that language molds our perception of the world (Wittgenstein, the "linguistic turn" in philosophy, etc). Ah, just more reflection. Thanks for your time!

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I've heard of the book, but haven't read it. Prolly won't either. I'm not into debate and I have enuf "criticisms" of KW of my own. I don't need to add more.

I get the impression that it is not necessary for KW to be "right" or "wrong" about everything - except for people who need that kind of Absolute certainty. Needing that kind of absolute certainty seems immature to me. What KW seems to have made room for is that everyone is partially right. So the author of that book is prolly partially right about some stuff. That's a really safe bet. And, I have no problem leaving it at that. This will seem intolerable and "lazy" to alot of people, but again, that just seems immature to me.

It seems that KW has let us know that it is up to us to fill in all the parts of the map that he either hasn't gotten "precisely" right yet or has left blank because of the generalizations. One doesn't have to get all worked up into a lather and say that KW is WRONG! in order to add one's bit. Just add your bit. No big whoop.

Critics of KW often seem to "protesteth too much". And sometimes that is about projection and sometimes it isn't. But the author's claim that KW doesn't have something right for "psychological" reasons sounds like projection from this angle - esp. since you say alot is repetition and:

"He also asserts that we should be more concerned with understanding our opponents and our own positions (instead of obtaining absolute truth), and focus more on “leading a good life.”"

Okay. So how much of his own precious and limited life-time did he spend writing this book?  I couldn't know for sure. Has this author exposed any of his own "psychological" reasons for not wanting KW to be right? I am in dialog with people who can feel into their reasons. It seems to be a healthy part of any intellectual effort to know our own "psychological" reasons for studying or believing something.

In fact, it seems to be one of the most important things to know. Esp. now when it is getting harder and harder to figure out what is true in this world. There is information that anyone can point to to prove out nearly anything they want. And so the important information now seems to be knowing why we want to do that. Once we know why we want something to be true, we can make better choices about how much time and energy to spend on proving it out and send some of that newly disposable time and energy towards something more practical and urgent. I suspect that at one time it may have seemed really important to know how many angels could dance on the head of a pin, but wow. Looking back from here, it makes me wonder wtf those guys would have thot "useless" was!?

It's just philosophy, for Christ's sake! If he doesn't like it, he can walk away or create his own!

I don't know. It just seems like the philosophical version of "Heresy Hunting" to me. I'm sure it seems important at the time, but wow.

btw, one of the other important reasons KW doesn't debate most people who criticize his work is because they don't understand it well enuf to criticize it effectively. In order to debate them, he would first have to spend a month teaching them how to properly understand it so they could actually make an informed enuf opinion or judgment about it, and then go from there. He can't afford to spend that kind of time. It's not really personal, even tho lots of people can be jerks about it. But he has to spend his energy and time on things that only he can do something about. Lots of people can help some of these poor folks understand his work better, so he delegates that.

Thanks for checking in from time to time.

Kent State, huh? I just recently learned alot about what went down there back in the day. Several important Voices in our culture have come from that place. It is another Ground Zero that most of us Americans don't know enuf about.

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"The Left Hand Path, not merely the Right ... must take the lead."

~SES pg. 148