Holosync: Does anyone know if Ken Wilber and/or I-I still endorses Holosync?

Hi Martin: I have been using Holosync for 9 months. I have not gone to the deeper levels yet. Bill Harris put together a response to Eckart Tolle and Oprah's discussions on the internet. He interviewed Ken Wilber, Genpo Roshi, Diane Hamilton and all spoke favorably of Holosync. www.masteringthepowerofnow.com Check out this link and see what you think.

Jim

I purchased the first level and have found it a great state-inducing tool.  Haven't used it for a while, but I don't have anything bad to say about the technology.  (As has been mentioned quite often in Integral circles, the marketing is a whole other story.)

Anyway, this should keep you busy for a while:

http://pods.gaia.com/holosync

http://multiplex.integralinstitute.org/Public/cs/forums/thread/25141.aspx

http://multiplex.integralinstitute.org/Public/cs/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=holosync

Thank you all for your quick responses!

I spent some time with the links and the threads. However, I'm still not really convinced either way. Yes, I suppose I should just try it because, as they say, Holosync has a money back guarantee for 1 year, right?! But not quite ready yet.

Thanks so much to Jim O'Neil for the "masteringthepowerofnow.com" link and the interviews. Unfortunately, only one is available (Genpo Roshi) and Ken Wilber's won't be available for a while. I'll listen to Genpo's interview with Bill Harris soon, but my question still stands in case anyone else is reading this who might know of a post somewhere that includes a recent opinion from Ken Wilber on Holosync or any of the other teachers at I-I who have tried Holosync.

A lot to ask, I suppose, but what the heck...

Thanks!

Martin Schoen

Thank you, yes, those links were helpful!

I listened to Bill Harris' interview with Genpo Roshi today and Genpo did mention he uses and enjoys Holosync. Just a passing comment, really, but considering the source, I was heartened to hear it. So I believe I'll give it a whirl, but still looking forward to the rest of his "mastering the power of now" interviews. (I've enjoyed many of Eckhart Tolle's recordings, but I agree with Bill that Eckhart is short on method and pratical recommendations.)

Thanks all!

Martin - I spoke with Bill Harris in reply to this thread and he suggested anyone interested go to the

of the Holosync site.  I also found

which offers a competing alternative to H/S at a lower cost for those on a budget.

Robb Smith

I was considering Holosync for a while, however, I was put off by the high cost, and also what felt like a pushy & patronizing sales rap.

I did some research and discovered Lifeflow: www.project-meditation.org/lifeflow.html. It claims to be more advanced than Holosync, and seems highly recommended by many folks. Plus it's much less expensive.

I haven't tried Holosync, other than the demo CD, so I can't really speak personally about how it compares to Lifeflow. Does anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks, D

I have been using Holosync fairly regularly for 3-4 years. I enjoy using it, it helps me make the space and time to sit for an hour and I have definitely changed (slowly) over the last few years. However, I don't really know how much of the change is due only to Holosync. I think it has helped me manage stress and together with personal therapy I think it has helped me to develop different perspectives, and become a lot less anxious and more willing to try new things. 

I have never had any of the "amazing experiences" described in the marketing blurb. I sometimes get odd bodily sensations and a sense of 'coming back' to awareness but not knowing where I've been (but I know wasn't asleep) but mostly my experience over the years has been very unremarkable! I currently feel I've reached a bit of a plateau and my development has stalled. This might be just where I am right now rather than a failure of Holosync. It is expensive and I always buy my next level in one of the sales! 

I hope this is helpful.

I've been using Holosync daily for the last 5 years(I'm near the end of the Purification level), and will share my experience and thoughts. When I first started using Holosync I had been meditating for about a year. My initial experiences with Holosync was that it induced deep (subtle) states of consciousness much more rapidly than standard meditation techniques. Over time, I have found that even deeper (? causal) states arise with regularity, and over the years I've seen these states change the way I behave and react in the gross state of daily life.

I would say that with consistent, patient use of Holosync the cost of the product has been worth it. I still think one should "supplement" Holosync with standard meditation techniques, but given how busy most of us are Holosync alone is certainly better than no meditation.

I think the "science" behind Holosync is fairly sound (though in its infancy), and the neurologic impact of long term Holosync use is probably similiar to long term meditation (though realize that different meditation techniques seem to cause different neurologic effects). I'm very interested in seeing so "simul-tracking" type research on Holosync, evaluating both the upper-right quadrant effects, but also the upper-left effects.

I suffer from atypical chronic depression, and I found that Holosync made it worse. After a lot of research I discovered that depressives usually have brainwaves that are too slow anyway. I was advised to give Neuroprogrammer a go, which I did, and have had tremendous results with a programme that actually 'speeds up' the brainwaves in my left hemisphere while simulataneously slowing them down on the right. It's a considerably cheaper than Holosync as well, and you don't get all that advertising spam that Bill sends out at least once a week.

Helen

I've been using holosync for about a year and I'm still on level one.  I enjoy listening to it which leads me to meditate more frequently.  I use it almost every day.  Unfortunately, I have trouble getting myself to devote an hour to it at a time.  So, frequently I just listen to "the dive" which is the first 30 mintues rather than the entire hour.  I haven't noticed any huge breakthroughs, but I enjoy it and feel that it's probably a healthy thing to do.  Eventually, I plan to move on to the other levels.  By the way, I hardly ever hear anything from Bill Harris anymore.  So, the ton of advertising/supporting e-mails don't go on forever.  In summary, I give holosync a "thumbs up".    

Nice to see people are still responding!

After 3 months, I am really impressed with Holosync and I plan on moving on to the next level in a month or so. I've noticed positive changes such as less stress and more graceful responses during stress. Sometimes I ask myself: "I wonder why I didn't feel any anxiety in that situation?"

It seems that the impact of the meditation increases when I also practice mindfulness meditation (i.e., witnessing) during the recording instead of just daydreaming etc. Waves of endorphins seem to be released when I do that, i.e., letting go of control or effort seems to increase the intensity of what the recording is doing. Toward the end of the hour, it seems I have short periods of "no thinking" and I wonder if it's what Wilber means by "causal awareness" as in deep sleep periods. The recording is also an easy way to induce sleep when wired up--just listen to "The Dive" for 10 or 15 minutes and it's nap time!

Of course, one of the main things about the Holosync program is that it got me to develop the habit of meditating for an hour everyday!

Peace.

O.K., it's been about 1 1/2 years of consistent, daily meditation practice with Holosync and I'm now using Awakening Level 3.

I must say I'm very, very glad I started using it. I will repeat what I said before: by practicing mindfulness meditation (attending to the breath when the mind wanders, trying to watch the process of thinking, "witnessing" etc.) while using Holosync makes the program more powerful. I'm experiencing many of the results that Centerpointe describe. Apart from Holosync sessions, I find that, anytime I stop and meditate during the day and/or use self-hypnosis, I quickly "drop down" into a meditative or trance state--more quickly than I had been before Holosync. There are other positive psychological, developmental effects I won't go into here. In short, I recommend it highly and suggest that beginners complete Awakening Level 1 (minimum 4 months) before you make up your mind about the program--6 to 9 months would be better.

I just wish Bill Harris would tone down the marketing stuff. Oh, well....

If anyone stumbling onto this thread has not already seen this presentation, go to: http://integrallife.com/node/40930

where Integral Life provides a comprehensive review of Holosync and concludes it is a powerful addition to one's ILP.

O.K., I just did a little review of the blog posts that come up when you type "Holosync" into the Integral Life search engine. As many of you probably know, there's a diversity of opinions and experiences with Holosync.

Based on my training and experience as a psychologist, I would recommend that anyone new to Holosync not read these comments as they can have too much influence on your subsequent experience, i.e., don't pay attention to the posts--including mine (O.K., a pause while your mind fumbles with that one! ;-) ) Instead, I recommend you simply try it and, if you find it helpful, keep using it. If you have questions, call the Centerpointe support coaches.

I think this sort of personal growth practice and technology is too complex to let a few comments sway you. I suppose that's true of all profound processes of change, no?! We all want answers before we take a step; indeed, that was why I started this thread. The first level of the program, Awakening Prologue, has a money-back guarantee, so if you're intrigued and you trust Integral Life and their tutorial, give it a go.

Or not.

You can find other brain entrainment recordings that are just as good for MUCH less money.