Great Leaders....

 Ken and Paul have joined together in what, to me, is the most important conversation of our time; leadership that has direct experience, direct knowledge flowing out of their experience, and Integral theory borne out of years of study and pursuit to synthesize truth and clarity from all disciplines todate. The pure joy listening to these humble men speak of deeper love, and the flow of that love transmitting out to the many, is itself divine revelation. Many moments in this loving, respectful conversation I found myself weeping tears of joy, as validation to my own path to live the direct experience has been often painful. Growing up in a small southern town and going to a southern baptist church that made my early altered state experiences feel like I was more experiencing the devil than my beloved inner presence, created a baggage of shadows that has taken most of my adult life to release.

That my early Christian love of Jesus's teachings and my love of Ken's teaching have now come into unity is the greatest joy for me. Thank you both. I can't wait to read this book and engage these words and experiences of Paul further.

Again my heart is filled with love and joy from you both,

Mary Linda