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seperating cultural and individual stages

I can imagine why people in the audience are making remarks about the term enlightenment. The idea of levels, and especially of a highest level, can easily be taken the wrong way. It can become a big project of achieving something and the humility is forgotten. That's why I think integral theory isn't helpful for anyone. With the experience of having been an achiever myself, I can see that for an achiever it might be more useful to have the perspective that there's nothing to achieve.

 

Switching to the main subject, maybe it would be useful to make a distinction between cultural and individual stages. In 'the Atman project', Wilber describes the different stages an individual goes through. (in the video he describes that the higher stages are more like states. having said that,) In my view the 'Atman project' sequence of stages/states could only be true for an individual in the western culture. In the video it was described that most Zen teachers were actually at blue. Maybe this is their individual sequence of stages: they go from blue directly to the transpersonal.

So what I want to show is, maybe the sequence of stages for an individual just depends on the stage their culture is in. Based on the culture someone is in, one could still predict what the sequence of stages of development of an individual would be.

 

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I think

that I cycle between the first three.

Fortunately my auto-referrent notional definition

is wiggly