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Sex, teachers and conduct

There seems to be significant confusion in this community on how to handle spiritual teachers who sleep with their students. One could even go as far as to say that the community is not very good at handling these kinds of situations.

Why is this happening? Why is a self-proclaimed cutting edge community having just as much or even more trouble handling these situations as regular communities? Something doesn't add up.

Perhaps it has to do with recognizing more nuance, more complexity, than conventional communities and institutions. After all, when things aren't black and white it's harder to settle on a singular line of action.

Do we find ourselves in a territory where we can perceive more complexity and nuance than we can process? Have our cognition and values evolved further than our decision making capabilities?

Personally, I do not believe that to be the case. At least not to the point that it can explain what is going on here. I think it's something much more simple.

For some reason there is more confusion than necessary around the following terms:

  • Post-conventional
  • Growth

Let's start by addressing "post-conventional".

The idea that post-conventionality turns every idea on its head, and makes every moral decision relative, is simply not true. It might seem that way in our interiority (UL), but checking with other quadrants shows us that this is not the case.

Any human brain still needs the same basic structure, nutrients and gateways to function in a healthy way – regardless of the complexity it attains. Any given culture still needs a minimum of conventional structures as the glue that holds it together, no matter how post-conventional it is.

The conventional is good at protection and boundaries. Keeping some of the conventional relevant never goes out of fashion. No matter how high you grow you still need to protect that which is alive, healthy, free and flowing.

In other words, we would do well to remember some basic conventional principles if we aspire to be leaders or teachers. In a post-conventional territory, these principles are no longer stringent rules, but they are a good starting point, and we need a pretty convincing rationale if we are to completely disregard them.

A more simple way of stating this is that healthy transcendence also brings an element of inclusion.

Next, let's address "growth". In the integral community everybody seems to want to grow. Vertical development and growing through spiritual states is highly coveted. More is better, even though you'd be hard pressed to actually find someone admitting that.

Chasing growth can be dangerous, though. Especially if both the student and the teacher have the same mindset. Who slams down the brakes? Who is concerned with safety?

In medicine we talk about "primum non nocere". First, do no harm. Obviously this cannot be used as an absolute rule, since it would prevent you from doing pretty much anything. Growth is disruptive by nature, and you rarely get any reward without accepting an element of risk.

However, even the most sophisticated spiritual growth is dependent on being a person who is reasonably healthy and happy. Spirit cannot be reduced to our bodies, but without our bodies there is no foundation for growth. Therefore, it makes abundant sense to err on the side of caution, and always remember to "first, do no harm".

The very reason that psychologists, therapists and doctors promise not to sleep with a client is to create an environment for growth and healing that is as safe as possible. There will always be risks, but why add more risks than necessary?

Does post-conventional morality change this? I don't know. But I do know that the burden of proof rests squarely on those who believe that sexual interactions is kosher where there is a deep, sacred bond of trust between spiritual teacher and student.

So what does all of this mean for the leadership of Integral Life and beyond? How should they respond when a teacher has demonstrated a repeated lack of judgment and integrity vis-a-vis his or her students?

While I'm a staunch proponent of the presumption of innocence -- the notion that everyone is innocent until proven guilty -- being a spiritual teacher is a privilege, not a constitutional right. It is entirely reasonable that such a privilege be put on hold, if reports of questionable behavior surface.

Creating workshops or retreats that encourage participants to go deep is tricky enough as it is. Adding a teacher that is potentially unsafe upsets the delicate balance that is needed.

In the case of a spiritual teacher who time and again has demonstrated an inability to keep deep and sacred student relationships separate from sexual activity, there should be no hesitation to sideline that teacher for as long as is needed – even indefinitely. This does not mean that our love or compassion for this teacher diminishes, simply that we do what is needed.

Let me also clarify that I'm not saying that sleeping with a student is always wrong. If a teacher-student relationship is consciously terminated in order to pursue a sexual relationship, then that may be fully appropriate. If the student has been highly dependent on the teacher, then it may be necessary for the student to find a new teacher, before engaging in a sexual relationship.

I'm also not saying that you become a student by simply attending the lecture of a spiritual teacher. You need to go to a retreat, do one-on-one work or something of that nature to be in an asymmetrical and deep teacher-student relationship.

High vertical development and strong spiritual states are not always easy to handle. The higher the tree the longer the shadow. We want our teachers to have this kind of verticality and spiritual attainment, while also being safe. This is no small demand.

However, this is what we have the right to demand, when it comes to the privilege and calling of being a spiritual teacher (or therapist, or doctor, or social worker...). If you ask to be entrusted with a position of power you also accept unusual levels of accountability.

We cannot and shall not be a court of law, but we can do what it takes to protect our spaces for growth.

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Wonderful said

Dear Pelle,

I just love this blog with all the wonderful insights that is surfacing - so many heartfelt comments in a rich diversity.

I love the way you put it in words - not my strength as a foreigner to the language.

I agree with you that we need the healthy conventual conduct - the inclusion of it. You left with your insights enough space for those, who are always operating on the edge of evolution - and we really need them and they need us to further grow in a dualistic sense, that we can't deny as long we live on Earth or a dualistic Universe. Otherwise, it is in the realm of "ALL" or GOD however you will name it, of no importance at all.

Many Blessings,

Eva-Maria

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right on

-I agree Pelle. well written and thank you. Jane-

 The fabric of my life is the cloth with which it is my task to polish the lens of my own perception.

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What does it mean to draw the line in multi-dimensional space?

Pelle,

I think your post demonstrates the point that it difficult to make one in this issue. Until and unless we define our terms and anchor our ideas in concrete/shared understandings of the territory we are discussing, we run the risk of sounding like we have agreement when we don't. As examples of the challenge at hand, you write:

it makes abundant sense to err on the side of caution, and always remember to "first, do no harm -
to sideline that teacher for as long as is needed -
Any given culture still needs a minimum of conventional structures as the glue that holds it together -
Adding a teacher that is potentially unsafe upsets the delicate balance that is needed -

unusual levels of accountability. -
I'm not saying that sleeping with a student is always wrong.

Each one of these statements points to a line that doesn't exist in shared understanding, and the fact that they don't exist in shared understanding is the source of the scandal. 

Where is the line of "caution" that we can "err on the side of" ?
"as long as is needed" - to accomplish what? How do you know when it is done?
what is "a minimum of conventional structures" ?
What is "potentially unsafe?" - How safe is safe?
What is the "balance" that we delicately need?
What are usual levels of accountability, and what are unusual?

These are the questions that, until they are answered, create ample space for the projection of our rules onto the integral space of community and the actions of "teachers" and "students" within it.

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Mark Michael Lewis - The Thrive Coach - Know Your Purpose. Build True Wealth. Love the Journey. - http://GameOfThriving.com - http://OptimalHumanValues.com

 

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oh! i know why!

hi pete. i didn't get through your entire post yet. but i think that why we have these troubles is really a lot regarding this: the love of money is the root of all evil. words like 'love' and 'root' are important in this. there are two different kinds of desire. you can feel the difference, but we get so caught up in the words that we disregard the feeling sometimes, there's a subtle kind of unnecessary trickiness, a fundmental lying, which in its sublter forms, becomes confusion, and is denied rather than fully repressed, which is what it should be, repressed.

there's no excuse for evil. there just isn't. it's totally inexcusable.

anyways, have a really nice day.

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unusual levels of accountability - indeed!

Excellent post, Pelle. "If you ask to be entrusted with a position of power you also accept unusual levels of accountability". Indeed. It is crazy that anyone should defend their lack of trust in a teacher who has been proven to manipulate. Being a teacher is indeed a privilege and should be handled with humility - if the teacher can't do that, why would he or she be teaching others humility? Or is it that we don't even believe in the possibility of purity and humility anymore? Then why do we have spiritual teachers at all? Is is just for spiritual entertainment, or do we still believe we could actually learn how to live an enlightened life?

Thank you for that breath of sanity!

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The most clear statement I've read

Thank you Pelle for this article. This is the most clear and direct statement I've read about this subject from the Integral community.

I don't think this issue is very complex at all, personally. A consistent pattern of women saying "I felt abused and lied to" means something has gone wrong that the individual teacher needs to take responsibility for, and the community needs to remove the teacher from a teaching position as well as establish guidelines to prevent further incidents from other teachers. The clearest rule is that which you stated, to allow for sexual relationships between student and teacher only when an official ending has taken place in that student-teacher relationship, and possibly after some period in between. Mature communities like IMS have had rules like this for years, but Integral (tm) frequently feels the need to reinvent the wheel.

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Clear-eyed post

Thank you for simply stating what seems viscerally apparent.  

Lower levels are platforms for growth.  They have wisdom that needs to serve as a foundation for reaching higher.  Healthy translation is no less valuable than transcendence, and perhaps more valuable for functioning in a large and diverse community.  The implicit preference for height seems often to ignore the importance of health.

And position, authority flowing from community, is a privilege that carries responsibilities not imposed upon every individual member of the community.  Similarly, losing a position of authority because of a failure to fulfill those responsibilities does not mean that the individual is no longer a member of the community.  Just that the individual is no longer given exceptional power and are no longer expected to fulfill exceptional responsibilities.  

There seems to be a lack of clarity around this second point.  All failings as a leader do not lead to exile.  Most only lead to a loss of office.  

Thank you for the calm reflection.  

 

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It`s...a...Foot!

hi Pelle, nice...words...and...I

...would...like...to...add...that

...watching...this...all...un...fold

...has...been...very...exciting...it

...is...not...often...we...get...a...ring

...side...seat...at...the...evolution...of

...a...movement...like...Integral...a...

defining...moment...vern...reckons...

well...over...due...I...may...add...as...

for...poor...Mark...its...goes...without

...saying...that...we...all...forgive...him

...for...his...foolishness...and...stupidness

I...suggest...he...peels...the...potatoes...and

...washes...the...dishes...and...lets...not...forget

...the...sweeping...up...give...it...less...than...3...

years...and...read...his...words...again...and...they

...will...be...seen...for...the...complete...and...utter

...bulls...shite...that...they...have...always...been...this

...Rape...of...the...Traditions...really...has...to...STOP!

 

peace&love...vern

 

p.s...marvelousness!

 

                 

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Great Post Pelle

So many things nailed.

Thank you for your amazing contribution. 

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this is silly.

(laughs, cocks head to the side slightly, listens, throws up a little...)

hi pelle. sorry i got confused about your name. :)

this game's almost over, right? it's been fun while it's lasted.  but really...

like, what? can't we all just learn from each other a little? and while we're at it, learn how to respect one another, hardcore-like, and maybe work on reclaiming our sincerity, and our innocence? that would be helpful (i like to say, 'helful' like, 'hedgehog'). try it. 'hedgehog'. maybe then write more. i like what you've done thus far. :)

many blessings.