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Excellent Tool; Low-Altitude Orientations in Example...

Posted June 3rd, 2009 by Rainoshek
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Your Native Perspective: Understanding Meetings

This is a great, brief introduction to quadrant-oriented perspectives brought to meetings. I really appreciated seeing Joanne Hunt for the first time, as ICC has been piquing my interest for some time. 

Also, the use of video here to represent the native perspectives is great, and the layout was really easy to use for an efficient grasp of the content.

A few words of critical feedback on this particular presentation - noting that all of these comments are probably covered by Joanne in full presentations of this methodology.

 

LOW ALTITUDE ORIENTATIONS
The presentation, in part due to its small excerpts, predominantly uses a negative, rather low altitude, combative orientation of each member towards other members. In a more fully developed presentation, some of the more positive, higher-altitude constructive thoughts members often do have towards each other would also be instructive to note.

It would be fun to look at what the inner dialogue would be from the different quadrants with everyone at blue altitude, orange altitude, green (which would be lots of fun), and into second and third tier. Also mix and match with different altitudes in different quadrants.

SEASONED OR UNSEASONED?
Also, this meeting mock-up was set as a group who did not really know each other, and did not have much history together - only a shared understanding they were there to do "Project A." Much of the interior perspective-monologues came from this place of not having a history together, and would have looked much different had this group worked together before.

For example, in a group that worked together on a regular basis, the LR perspective would have felt no need to talk about a systems perspective or overall mission, as that would have been long established, unless the larger vision or systems had changed or been forgotten. They would be looking more to see whether what others said had a functional fit, or not.

The LL, in a seasoned group, would not be worried about getting to know each other, but would probably be more focused on making sure everyone was heard, or that members simply felt appreciated as the meeting progressed. This would also be the quadrant of the class clown, I presume... more interested in making sure everyone was having fun together than in what was accomplished long-term?

The UR in a seasoned group would be largely the same, but would have some perspective on things that had already been accomplished, and how the group had historically done in getting things done. 

The UL participant's inner monologue was completely narcissistic - and while this may be common, many Green-oriented persons who are not of the MGM are almost to the other side of the equation - drippingly egalitarian.

WHAT IS THE MEETING ABOUT?
Again, there are so many possibilities here, and I know just getting an initial presentation on this approach is a lot of work. This example assumes members are in some kind of a RH quadrant, exterior, industrially-oriented meeting: getting something physically accomplished... But meetings can be held in which the goal is to accomplish things in the LH interior quadrants, such as establishing a shared meaning in a group or between groups, or sharing to heal personal pathologies or traumas, such as in group counseling. In such LH-oriented meetings, the RH quadrants would say quite different things, and express different interior monologues than they did in this RH-oriented meeting mock-up.

 

Most of these comments, as I said earlier, are probably already covered by Joanne and ICC when more time and space allows a fuller presentation.

This is an excellent introduction to this aspect of ICC's work, and I look forward to learning about more valuable tools and perspectives from Joanne Hunt, Laura Divine, and ICC. Thank you so much for an excellent post!

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Do Integral Meetings Suck Too?

Posted June 3rd, 2009 by Rainoshek

And I take it that all meetings suck - but in an Integral meeting everyone is more fully aware why... 

David Rainoshek, MA