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Beware of the Coming Economic Era
And How to Prepare For It...
Umm, not so fast.
Scenario 1: Balance Sheet Recession
Scenario 2: Soft Landing
Scenario 3: Aftershock
Getting the right view matters
Managing your personal financial foundation
- In any scenario where the private sector is struggling and governments are stepping in heavily, you might want to be in business with the government by investing in stocks that provide governmental services (healthcare, defense, education, staples etc.). (e.g., scenario 1)
- In any scenario where the private sector is growing and improving, you might want to be in business with the private sector by investing in consumer-driven stocks (technology, consumer goods, retail etc.). (e.g., scenario 2)
- In any scenario where we face a real risk of a sovereign debt crisis, you could hedge your downside with precious metals, which is where investors tend to flee in a crisis (well, they also flee to the American dollar, but that’s exactly what we’re hedging against). (e.g., scenario 3)
- In any scenario where you believe significant price inflation is coming, and you have a personal income stream that will rise along with price inflation, you could increase the amount of fixed-rate debt you have on your primary residence now while the rates are still at an all-time low. If price inflation hits, the real, inflation-adjusted value of your debt will go down, increasing (or maintaining) the real value of your home equity. Remember that inflation is a wealth transfer from creditors to debtors (and from savers to borrowers). If inflation hits, fixed-rate debt is good (ceteris paribus).
- In addition to these conventional moves you can also get creative and invest in foreign stock, foreign currencies, treasury shorts, commodities etc.
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Beware indeed
Posted April 29th, 2010 by Tom ClearwaterNice overview, Robb. IMO, the world is sailing in uncharted waters. Governments' abilities to financially act to stabilize further large perturbations look basically tapped. This suggests that, on a world scale, we have shot our flare and have little option but to stand by and watch developments as they unfold.
My deeper feeling for the medium term is we'll see material instabilities in what unfolds in the next several years. Averaging across these instabilities, and barring a highly destabilizing event, developed economies will likely return to at best tepid growth (2%) while developing economies will double or triple that depending on the country. One bright light on this particular horizon is that countries like China have in the last many years slowly, but materially, delinked from US and European consumption to drive economic growth. China, for instance, recently reported its first trade deficit.
This likely (almost certain IMO) difference between developed and developing economic performance will draw money to developing economy assets, including to stock of companies active in developing economies, to developing economy stock and to commodities required to feed development. Because money is gushing into the monetary base at a never before seen rate, each of these target assets look to me ripe for bubble formation. Market increases over the last several months are already the second largest in history; they will become the largest with only a small further run.
God knows what will happen when interest rates rise.
Then consider that oil production looks to be peaking, with realistic estimates showing a peak in the next four years (conventional production has already peaked). We currently are facing $85 oil near the trough of the worst recession since the 1930s. With a small uptick in consumption, that price will reach triple digits.
I feel we're in a birth canal with pressure building.
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Excellent Post
Posted April 29th, 2010 by B SnowThis was a refreshingly real post. Glad to see that Integral folks of macro-level trends, dangers, and future scenarios, and are thinking about them.
Now the key question: how do we respond to the coming reality, assuming that scenario 3 is real? In my opinion we need not only personal financial strategy, but also international financial strategy. That means that nationally we have a strategy to grow our money, rather than just tax, spend, and print it. We need a regulatory system that makes sense (again, look to Australia), and we need need a core group of exceptionally smart AND moral people that basically put their heads together, forecast future scenarios as you have here, and then begin creating future scenarios that will secure future stability, prosperity, and well-being for Americans for generations to come.
Internationally we build institutions that credibly decrease global anarchy, create conditions conducive for developing countries to adequately capitalize on global markets, disincentivize dictatorships, coordinate international regulatory, fiscal, and monetary policy, democratize the World Bank and especially IMF voting structures, ensure that the IMF has the capacity to provide global liquidity, and correct or at least disincentivize global BOP imbalances.
All easier said than done. "Doing" will entail long political battles, many hard lessons, and of course a search for what works. Maybe the silver lining is that in the long run resources will be reallocated more efficiently, democratically, and morally (we can only hope). Perhaps we are seeing shifting economic tectonics that will finally create a global political and economic order that is stable, wealth-creating, and fair (not to mention clean -- AGH!). But adjustment is always painful, and it is those who will lose their jobs, see their wealth, security, let alone happiness be destroyed in this process. If the doomsday scenario 3 is true, we will see this in the US and around the world. I think part of being "integral" or whatever means using skillful means, and making targeted efforts. So if we are going to act integrally on this global stage, we would do well to keep those most hurt by such adjustment well in mind as we create the future we want for ourselves, families, country, and world.
Just some ramblings. Thanks again for the post!
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First sentence should say "...Integral folks are aware of...
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Well Said!
Posted April 29th, 2010 by James Barrow in response to Excellent PostB SNOW - I agree wholeheartedly with this:
"So if we are going to act integrally on this global stage, we would do well to keep those most hurt by such adjustment well in mind as we create the future we want for ourselves, families, country, and world."
Well said.
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Posted April 29th, 2010 by Timothy J MelodyThanks Robb, I think you should indeed keep more content like this coming and coming and coming.
I can see now even more directly how this ties in to the conversation we were recently having.
The big point: this is an urgent matter because you need a solid economic base to sustain an Integral worldview.
And you certainly need a solid economic base to build and broaden an Integral worldview (and reality) on a wider scale. When any single quadrant collapses, the other three suffer accordingly. So too, however, in the opposite direction.
I stumbled upon Right Bucks yesterday and greatly appreciate this contribution as well.
Thanks, Tim
This sense of urgency to change and translate and re-make the world is really, at it’s most powerful and important root, a sense of urgency to newly change, translate and transform one’s own world. The gospel is not for everybod
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Nice post
Posted April 29th, 2010 by Brent SimpsonRobb, thanks for the post it was informative. I like the tripart nature of your post... But, I think sadly the indicators point more towards the latter over the former of the three options you are presenting here. To give you a few reasons why...
1) The actual bailout is not 800 billion it is in fact over 28 trillion (when you add this fact to our present inflation this is a real blow to the dollars power). [this post shows 23.7 trillion, but is an old link... I can't find the link showing that it is in fact presently at 28 trillion].
2) The fact that many are calling again for another similar bailout in the near future. Such as helping to bailout Greece and other 1st world countries.
3) The apparent fact (from reading books like "The Creature From Jeckyll Island) that indeed bailout is predesigned into the very fabric of the fractional reserve system. That although America has never suffered this fate, the predesigened nature of these bailouts has hit really a majority of the worlds countries and only now the hen is coming home to roost (as it is America that is the worlds central reserve currency) and they have not yet seen hyperinflation in their dollar.
Oh, and it may be laughable but I am in fact taking up the whole farming thing by moving (potentially permanently) to Ecuador to take up permaculture in the Amazonian Forest in just three days!! So blessings to you good sir and I really do hope that Integral Life thrives, God knows it's needed ;)
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Yes Exciting times
Posted April 29th, 2010 by Allan HallGreat post Rob.
I think that we need to be really aware of the bubble of privilege that we live and the possibility that things could turn either way in the blink of an eye. Here is New Zealand we are so dependent on the global economy. The more you study the situation the more understand that you have of how incredibly complex the matter is. We must continue to work to increase our capacity for care comprehension and compassion so we can offer better solutions to the matrix. Growing our way our of it globally seems like one of the only solutions.
Keep up the awesome work I have been a member for many years now and enjoy the monthly CDs and DVD. They have had a great affect in many peoples lives. All it takes is one drip that causes a ripple that starts a wave that makes the whole world stand up and take notice.
Namaste
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Integral application is exactly what we need
Posted April 29th, 2010 by jrigzintuteHi Robb:
Thanks for that excellent post. As a long time integral follower/member who has been out of the loop for the last year or so, I'm thrilled to see this kind of post. Just a glance at the responses makes me quite excited to see the equally engaged thinking of various members here.
Integral theory literally changed my life and gave me some powerful operating and organizing principles. And now I am quite hungry for practical applications of that theory in my personal life and in community. This article is a great example of that for me.
As a privileged middle-class Canadian, I have pretty much lived my life as if money would continually fall from the sky, without too much effort on my own part. And in a certain respect, that's kind of how things have gone. But my own advancing age, and the instability of the world have made me much more aware of a personal need to get my financial house in order. And more than that, to have some organizing principles with which to do it. I find your article really hits home on this level, and I welcome much more of this kind of nuts and bolts application of integral theory in the coming months and years.
Here in Canada it is looking reasonably likely that your second scenario may apply. Our banks were never terribly far into sub-prime lending, and our deficit and debt levels have remained much more manageable, even through the crisis. But as the mouse living next-door to your elephant, we could easily get crushed by too much economic and social lurching south of the border. So we have an interesting balancing act to work out.
I don't have too much of value to add to the discussion, but want to express my appreciation for your points and the way they will be influencing my financial decisions as we move through these interesting times.
Rigzin
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Bravo and three cheers
Posted April 29th, 2010 by Steve RedmondRobb,
I will join the chorus and say how much I enjoyed the post. Judging from the comments it looks to be a big hit. I think your three scenarios are right on for covering the gamut of possibilities when dealing with systems within systems within systems.
Just for fun, I would read the tea leaves as 30,60,10 percent for scenarios 1,2 and 3 respectively. Although I will disclose that I have recently tried to figure out what it would take to short Treasuries. Would love to hear what everyone else thinks.
I will also add that even though I was incredibly inspired by the post, I was also a little depressed about the current state of Integral Life/Institute and their prospects for scenario 3. I had no idea how severe the downturn in donations were over the past few years. I truly wish I could do more but I'm afraid I'm a decade or two away from offering anything meaningful (if all goes well :). However, I am going to upgrade my account to do a little more and encourage others to do the same if they have the capacity.
I have always had investing as a practice/hobby of mine and it has become part of my integral practice. I have to admit your recognition of it's importance really felt nice for me.
I would like to add a few items to your wonderful macro level vision.
One would be the importance to live below your means and, as you have implied, to use the leftovers to build wealth with purpose. I want to do more than my 7,000 people, much more, and it all starts with living below your means. There is also a little side benefit to this. There is a tremendous amount of self-discipline and shadow work that comes along with it.
Second, if you understand Integral and the associated development models you can see value in corporations and leaders that others can not. After all, that really is how to excel in investing, to see value where others can not. You can appreciate the value of a lower left culture of a Google or Berkshire Hathaway. You can see the core values of a John Mackey vs. a Richard Fuld (Lehman Bro's) and how that translates into a better organization. You will be able to spot that new young integral CEO and ride along with her success. You will be first in line on the day Integral Life wants new investors!!
Disclosure: Berkshire Hathaway, Whole Foods, Google
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Thank you, Robb
Posted April 30th, 2010 by David MarshallThat was very informative and helpful.
I would just like to add a Zen Buddhist perspective from Shunryu Suzuki. It may look to some as though he is suggesting some kind of spiritual bypassing, but I don't think that is what he is doing. I think, among other things, he is suggesting action beyond fear:
Most priests worked to earn some money to support themselves and their families. My belief was that if I observed the Buddhist way faithfully, people would support me. If no one supported me it would mean that Dogen's words were not true. So I never asked anyone to give me anything. I just observed the Buddhist way without working as a teacher or as a clerk in the town office.
I raised some vegetables and sweet potatoes in my temple garden. That is how I know how to raise vegetables pretty well. I had a spacious garden in front of the temple, so I dug up the ground, took out all the stones, and put in manure. Some villagers came and helped me, and we grew vegetables, and we had a good crop.
One day my neighbor came to help me cook. When she opened the rice box, there was no rice at all. I had a pretty big rice box. She was astounded, so she brought me some rice. It was only a little, as she didn't have much rice, but then my neighbors and members of my temple collected rice. When people found out I had a lot of rice they came to the temple, so I gave my rice to them. The more I gave my rice to them, the more rice I was given.
At that time most people who lived in the city went to the farming families and exchanged whatever possessions they could for food: potatoes, rice, sweet potatoes, or pumpkin. But I had no such difficulty. Most of the time I had plenty of food, but I didn't feel so good eating something different from other people, so I tried to eat the same food as they did. Here at Tassarara the food is wonderful, strong, and rich, in comparison to the food we had in wartime. So I have not had any complaint about the food. If we observe our way strictly we will surely be protected by Buddha. We will trust people, and we will trust Buddha.

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Appreciate this...
Posted May 1st, 2010 by bonnittaroyThanks Robb. Very much appreciate your analyses ... particularly good in noting that what direction the economy/ world scene takes on, will be deemed "good or bad" depending upon one's perspective/ level/ personal situation (i.e. whether you are an asset holder or a debtor; young or older; healthy or not; Chinese or American)... I don't pretend to understand the machinations of the market... but I think it very interesting your post-script about the US Navy. It seems to me that the current situation is grounded in geopolitical power which at the end of the day is basically "might making right" -- a result of 1) the various military conquests in the New World and 2) the position of the US after the 2 WW's -- that is one overall pattern that IMO enfolds everything else in its wake, and is, as you point out, clearly indicated in the relationship between naval presence and the danger to the dollar. Would the future of the dollar qualify as "a clear and present danger?" - the idiomatic measure for US military force anywhere in the world? I think so, yes, if you consider that "military presence" is already a very real "force."
Not that I am offering this up as a critique. I think this is a huge national "shadow" -- and that any analysis of the world situation must include this over-arching aspect, and the question of the role of the US (or US-included alliance) military power in a future we would like to see emerge. Is it possilbe, in other words, to de-couple financial security from forceful means? If not in THIS reality... it would be interesting to thought-experiment one in which this would be possible, and try to glean some interesting alternatives.
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Posted May 1st, 2010 by bonnittaroyThanks Robb. Very much appreciate your analyses ... particularly good in noting that what direction the economy/ world scene takes on, will be deemed "good or bad" depending upon one's perspective/ level/ personal situation (i.e. whether you are an asset holder or a debtor; young or older; healthy or not; Chinese or American)... I don't pretend to understand the machinations of the market... but I think it very interesting your post-script about the US Navy. It seems to me that the current situation is grounded in geopolitical power which at the end of the day is basically "might making right" -- a result of 1) the various military conquests in the New World and 2) the position of the US after the 2 WW's -- that is one overall pattern that IMO enfolds everything else in its wake, and is, as you point out, clearly indicated in the relationship between naval presence and the danger to the dollar. Would the future of the dollar qualify as "a clear and present danger?" - the idiomatic measure for US military force anywhere in the world? I think so, yes, if you consider that "military presence" is already a very real "force."
Not that I am offering this up as a critique. I think this is a huge national "shadow" -- and that any analysis of the world situation must include this over-arching aspect, and the question of the role of the US (or US-included alliance) military power in a future we would like to see emerge. Is it possilbe, in other words, to de-couple financial security from forceful means? If not in THIS reality... it would be interesting to thought-experiment one in which this would be possible, and try to glean some interesting alternatives.
Bests,
Bonnie
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Keep them coming
Posted May 1st, 2010 by luis costaHi Rob,
Just to let you know that although I look to Integral Life for spiritual material, I am actually overly interested in real-world affairs, now that I can start to situate them within the whole aqualything, showing the way we go and the point we're at. And I am even more interested on Integral Life’s views on them, which always remind me of how young my understanding is. And that should be the case with a few, if not many of us. That's why we come for integral after all. Besides, your integral view is developed enough to became a pleasant lesson, whatever specifics you choose to look upon to start with. Thank you for this useful post, again, and keep on with them... you should have a column. Love, luis
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Playing friendly devils advocate
Posted May 2nd, 2010 by Christine McDougallHi Robb,
I would like to play friendly devils advocate (or is that positive deviant?) in reply.
Your opening line, “Your economic stability is critical to your personal development.” I am not sure about this. Critical? Many people learn the most by having an instability. They might learn things like creativity, ingenuity, entrepreneurialism, collaboration, humility, a deep understanding of value...True some people become paralyzed by instability, but others truly rise through this in the most remarkable and innovative ways.
If we look at the structure of our economic system which I do believe is in the process of unraveling, it is built on a platform of endless growth in the exterior...more stuff, more people, more weapons, more, more.... Some of us know that this is unsustainable. The growth that needs now to occur is in the interior. Not just the interior of the human, but in the interior of the very system. In community, in collaboration, in invisible aesthetics, like design.
What most people do not see is that the current economic model is also built on the principle of scarcity. This is so intrinsic to the design of our system, that like a fish can’t see water, we simply do not see the level to which we are embedded in this. In very simple words, in order for me to eat/survive (the coming economic collapse) someone else has to lose. This is our current model.
Take for example gold (and other precious metals), which many smart people cite as very important to stockpile in order to survive any coming collapse.
If we really are to practice integral, we must be mindful of the total cost of us stockpiling gold. For every 2 ounces of gold extracted, 20 tones is the norm of earth that needs to be mined. At what cost to the environment? At what cost to the communities that have made the mine areas their homes for hundreds of years? At what cost to their health and well being? And then what about all of the other costs? Like transport.. (For an article on the field effects of our every thought at action please see www.positive-deviant.com/field-effects.html)
I personally see that what is coming is a breakdown in the very system that you discuss in your portfolio building. We are moving towards a completely new economic model which makes all of the old obsolete. A model that is not built on endless exterior growth and scarcity, but on a higher consciousness of the field effects of everything we do.
To me building a portfolio such as you suggest simply sits right in to our current model. At its core it has scarcity. In order for me to survive, others cannot.
Now I am a mother and I can put my hand on my heart and say I would do anything to support the survival of my daughter. However, I know it is also time to ask a different set of questions, particularly if we even consider approaching “we are all one” as a truth.
Questions such as...
Is there a model that ensures the healthy emergence of all humanity? Surely that is the one we would be seeking?
Is there a new way of being in value exchange that honors all of life?
Are we integralist able to demonstrate now, a bridge that crosses from the very broken old model, to the new, yet to be born model? If so, what is that bridge? And I am specifically talking about a financial bridge. A way we do business together. Surely we need to be the leaders in this new model?
I am not anti having a strong financial foundation. However, I do believe that the future of a strong financial foundation is not the one you discuss. The fringe events that are likely to occur in the next few decades will catch almost all of us unprepared. The unforeseen like an attack on the computer cloud and a loss of ALL data (including the data about the amount of money in our bank accounts).
What does that mean to us as individuals with families to feed? Well, for a start, we have to start to recognise that it is not OK for my child to survive when millions do not.
The skills that we need more than anything are creativity, flexibility, entrepreneurship, a deep understanding of value (the conversation on value is well beyond the scope of this reply), the ability to collaborate, build community, ask much better questions; these are the kinds of investments I am interested in. And to invest my money in people who are living this way, who are building the models of the future. Those rare individuals who really get that the very system is breaking down and a new system is being born, and they are working their arses off to facilitate the transition. That is where my time, energy and money is going. And it is also what I am teaching my daughter as I develop her resilience and creativity.
I am an optimist. Where my knee jerk response is scarcity (and I have to fight this shadow element in me every day), I have to drag my fear of lack, fear of loss of security, fear of starving, fear of no money...what ever this fear is, and I have many..back to another place. A place where I truly believe in the creative ability of my fellow man, but only, and here is the rub, only, when they are pushed to the very edge.
We emerge through emergency.
All of our certainties...our investments in houses or stocks or bonds or precious metals..all of these things offer no security in the long run. History has shown this time and again. The greatest security is in our ability to rise through adversity and discover new and better pathways. This is the very principle of emergence. Couple this with a view that shifts from scarcity, to recognising where there is plenty (plenty of creativity, plenty of energy, plenty of talent, plenty of love..the very principle of positive deviance)..or even better, to discipline our thinking to seek the plenty rather than contract to the scarcity, this is where our healthy future lives.
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Posted May 3rd, 2010 by Ambo Suno in response to Playing friendly devils advocateThere was a lot of good info and potentially useful speculation, quite well supported in Robb's post. Helpful for us to consider. I am glad he points out that this all is a dance of highly complex systems, including the wild cards of human social psychology.
I am glad you deviate to bring in more considerations, important considerations.
One bit that I have been surprised about over the decades relates to the complexity of this. So many times, I have been filled with doomy feelings of collapse in the US society and in economies and other facets of life. It has so often seemed out of balance, out of whack, levels of activation towards things that seem to have little visible means of support, leveraged out into the thinner air, suspended by mental sky-hooks, so not logical. And the surprise for me has been how much longer degeneration took than I expected. And the expected virulence of collapse sometimes morphs into uncomfortable frustration, transition, and some un-identifiable resiliency. I have tended towards imaginings of the dreaded occurrences for much of my life, with a sprinkling of intermittent paranoia, and after a while I have come to think more maybe.
My finances actually did collapse in 2000 and taperingly into doodooland for a few years. Yet, overall, I couldn't believe the resilience. Post 9/11, same thing. There are some deviant principles in investing and trading that many people have learned in the last decade plus. One, for example is that when the herd starts to think of doom, it is actually presaging a post-doom situation. Doom "has already been factored in." The social psychology is a powerful part of this, and the logics of economy haven't wielded the influence that they seemingly ought to. There are the "sciences" of market cycles and wave theories applied to the many markets and they apparently work just enough to where we don't dismiss them. And hindsight interpretations pick up a lot of the slack. Part of me thinks that we don't really know very well, and there is a reservoir of dread and collapsing scenarios in the human psyche that are motivations in search of a rationale. There are certainly plenty of sensible rationales available at this moment, including the magical 2012 number that, until we pass it relatively non-traumatized by the date (like Y2K), may haunt our judgments unseen. There have been studies of some of the powerful post-missed-cataclysm dates rationalizations and adjustments of thinking that happen. We as individuals and we as collective are apparently quite irrational and maybe on a certain scale lost.
So though my reason nods to Robb's presented storyline, and a pretty tightly supported storyline it is, I am not sure. This may really be the big one, finally. And shall we be prepared? As you point out, Christine, what would being prepared look like and would it be a more general preparation of the interiors and exteriors of ourselves. That's what I'm riffing now.
Thanks.
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Posted May 3rd, 2010 by Robb Smith in response to Playing friendly devils advocateChristine -
It's fun that we get to work together and do some friendly sparring on IL. So, with love, let's get to it...
I think some of your basic points about global consumption overhang and the need for long-run sustainability are accurate. And these are accurate, by the way, as a matter of "fact" (an exterior validity claim). We can see that with 30% global overhang that we cannot continue on this way (not without a game-changing productivity breakthrough). So I agree with the general aspiring tone of your reply.
However, I want to ground this discussion. So here is where I depart from your view (at least my reading of it, correct me if I've misread anything):
1. My post operates at the level of personal financial development. Your critique largely applies to the meta-systemic level. The difference is absolutely fundamental to different truth and normative claims. I would be writing an entirely different post for a global policy maker (i.e., different function, different kosmic address).
2. I disagree, and I think the historical record does also, with many of your conclusions about how people respond to a serious crisis that threatens real personal sustenance. An abundance mentality does not feed me if I'm hungry. This does not discount the very positive and real luxury of an abundance mentality when things are truly abundant; and further it is likely the case that the abundance mentality will be critically operative in the mindsets of the system designers who actually (accidentally?) create the next global paradigm. But I cannot absolutize the abundance mentality as something it is not: it is not an a priori given. And in fact gold has been a meaningful store of value for over 3,000 years. That's a decent track record.
3. Will you please send me $100,000? Seriously. Please send it my way. I'll forward you wire instructions and I will deposit into Integral Institute for any number of projects we cannot do there for lack of funding (to pay people's mortgages, grocery bills, health care etc.). I am not being provocative, I am simply pointing out that there is a very good reason for scarcity: resources are in fact scarce. Now the problems of these resource constraints are real, and we agree that global overhang is one of them. Nevertheless, scarcity is not a metaphysical bogeyman but a real and useful function of reality. It helps to inform us where to put our resources.
4. Finally, and this is the one I am most alarmed about as being propagated in the integral community: a new model better not make the old one obsolete, at least not totally. That's called revolution, and those tend to be bloody and not end well for anyone in an evolutionary sense. The new global economic model better include what works about the current model or it won't last long. I don't know what these elements are, but a recognition of real resource scarcity vis a vis the monetary function is probably one of them (actually, I do suppose that within 3 centuries real global per capital GDP will be such that a purely self-actualizing tax and monetary system will be a possibility, but that's a long way off in my view). I like what Bucky Fuller said that to replace the current system you design a new one to make the current one obsolete; I agree with that but I do not think that will be a wholesale replacement. Rather, it will begin to have a transcend and include set of policies: it will still have money and tax systems but a tax, regulatory and legal schema that begin to fully account for environmental costs, human welfare costs etc (what you suggest in your question #2).
I am unapologetic that because shifts in power are always relative, I am content to suggest that if integrally-minded people prepare themselves for whatever may come ("good" or "bad") the world will be relatively better served if more of the resulting wealth is accumulated in the hands of people with a naturally and already-entrenched abundant mindset.
For what it's worth, I was in a room full of bankers recently and they were asking about paradigm-changing innovations. They were deeply wanting to hear how some of what you propose could be pulled off. There was an expert with me who could talk all of the points you make. Not one of the points landed, and the bankers left confused and frustrated, because even the experts often can't ground these ideas in the actual mechanisms of the real-world as we find it.
OK, it's fun hashing this out...much love to you, talk to you soon.
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Posted May 3rd, 2010 by Christine McDougall in response to I like the devilHi Robb,
yes..fun sparing with you. Thanks for playing.
Briefly, wanted to say I totally agree with your point #4. Transcend and include. Dave Martin and I have been talking about this at length, and while in some small considered areas revolution may serve, we are looking for evolution. This is really the principle behind field effects, being comprehensively considerate of the effects of every design and action taken. So no to total obsolescence and yes to transcend and include.
I am not one of those people who do the whole abundance new agey thing, so I think you may be interpreting what I said in a way I was not meaning :)...however, I have recently come to realise just how entrenched scarcity is in the system and how it is there by design, and to keep us in fear. When we seek, through creativity and innovation, to find the abundance that almost everyone doesn't see (opportunity, new entities, new combinations, etc) using new eyes, there is an extraordinary reserve. I am talking about innovation triggered by the emergent need. But it does require a different way of seeing, and then action.
I would continue to argue that resources are scarce. True, some things at ground level are very scarce. But we have creativity in plenty, and with a shift in perspective and out of emergency, human ingenuity has the ability to retool and find more viable, and hopefully more healthy, alternatives. The question is, how do we support/teach/steward people to do more of this thinking and less of the paralysis by fear thinking?
I suspect that over a good meal and a glass of wine with more time to dialogue, and with a few other players to add some spice, we may actually find that for the most part we are in agreement. :)
warmly,
Christine
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Quick Words
Posted June 29th, 2010 by kbd2005 in response to Playing friendly devils advocateI don't like to be scared, to be in the unknown. Robb's post scared me. Deeply. But I've been scared before (I'm only 26) so I know what it's like and I know there's something at the end of fear that is uplifting.
I liked your post a lot. I too believe in abundance and searching interiors rather than exteriors and how scarcity is sort of entrenched in our culture. And (I'm sorry, I forgot his name, but I've read a couple of his posts) the guy that responded to you was way over my head and that's most likely because I'm not grounded.
You see, I'm 26 and I'm on social security because of schizophrenia that developed when I was in my early 20's. I'm really worried about the collapse because I don't know if I'll be able to work. I haven't worked a job since high school and I have literally no skills except maybe typing. I talk about collapse, how I "want" it because I want "change" but really, what does that mean? What would really happen? What if my social security disappeared? Would I just go back to living with my parents (who are definitely not integrally minded or even that financially secure). I don't know.
Being on social security has taught me what it's like to be provided for but at what cost? At the cost of me never having to work. That's a little scary. Why shouldn't I work while everyone else has to? Is healing, my own healing, really that important. So important that I don't have to contribute in any other real way? I don't know. I really don't know.
For a long time I thought just being me was enough. But I don't think so anymore. Not with what so many people are going through...
Your response would be appreciated as I'm a young guy and I really have no idea what I'm talking about...ever.
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Posted June 29th, 2010 by kbd2005 in response to Quick WordsHis name is Robb, the guy that originally posted. Hrmm.. He's over my head, like Ken was when I first started to reading him.
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Re: The Hook
Posted May 2nd, 2010 by Steven NickesonThe opening sentence of most written works...the hook...almost always casts its light beyond the spot the author wants to illuminate. I have studied this phenomenon for years as a professional writer/editor.
"Your economic stability is critical to your personal development" is a perfect example.
Further illumination #1: This statement if not true except for those whose personal development is contingent on something other than their person.
Illumination #2: This ambiguous statement generates an unwritten, contextual corollary that is true and goes to the heart of the matter--"Your economic stability is critical to the life and health of the Integral Institute."
Illumination #3: Apparently there is an large (but dwindling) number of Integral Provincials for whom that opening statement, that hook, is unfortunately true. I find this touching though not to a very large degree.
Over the past 35 years or so, I have watched the continual commodification of personal/spiritual developmental "tools." This process has instilled a perception that has become a given for a great many that one's development is contingent on at least three things: 1) One's discretionary income. 2) One's discretionary time. 3) The availability of product. I am not going to condemn this cultural turn out of hand because I tend to look at it from outside its particular circles. I am a pre-boomer and as such might have been born into the last U.S. generation that was not essentially socialized by its peer group. Therefore I am not going to gainsay the needs of those who are comfortable looking to something peer-like such as Integral Institute as in loco parentis or anything else that will get them through their nights. Nor will I gainsay the needs of Robb Smith who wrote the above piece as a hired hand who's ability to hang onto his job depends on his skills in selling product. I thought it was a nice tactic to spread a little wisdom and investment insight around through the customer base in an effort to at least keep them from bleeding so much red ink in these hard times. After all, their discretionary income is his primary income. (Though I suspect more of his customers have maxed-out credit cards than active portfolios.)
I guess what puzzled me about the Smith's piece is why he had to appear so altruistic with his advice that his hook was such a transparent canard to a reader who might, for instance, know that personal development is not contingent on financial stability but on a couple of profound values, a disciplined consciousness and an abiding will.
Thanks for your attention.
Steven Nickeson
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Posted May 2nd, 2010 by David Marshall in response to Re: The HookSteven, you are a fine writer, and I often laugh at your jokes. Really, I find your posts quite amusing, your literary flourishes at times beautiful, though not so much in this last piece.
But I don't respond here to compliment you, nor to put you down, per se. Why I respond here is to point out that you, a pre-boomer, have just delivered on a perfect expression of postmodern cynicism.
I don't mean, again, to try to shut off your spiget or put you down. This, essentially, is a celebration.
Also, I would point out that your theory of personal development (dependent on "a couple of profound values, a disciplined consciousness and an abiding will") leans very heavily toward the upper-left-hand quadrant, even absolutizes it. Perhaps if you included the other three quadrants in your theory of personal development (particularly the right-hand quadrants) you would not find the blog post so self-serving.
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Playing friendly devils advocate
Posted May 2nd, 2010 by Christine McDougall in response to Re: The HookHi Robb,
I would like to play friendly devils advocate (or is that positive deviant?) in reply.
Your opening line, “Your economic stability is critical to your personal development.” I am not sure about this. Critical? Many people learn the most by having an instability. They might learn things like creativity, ingenuity, entrepreneurialism, collaboration, humility, a deep understanding of value...True some people become paralyzed by instability, but others truly rise through this in the most remarkable and innovative ways.
If we look at the structure of our economic system which I do believe is in the process of unraveling, it is built on a platform of endless growth in the exterior...more stuff, more people, more weapons, more, more.... Some of us know that this is unsustainable. The growth that needs now to occur is in the interior. Not just the interior of the human, but in the interior of the very system. In community, in collaboration, in invisible aesthetics, like design.
What most people do not see is that the current economic model is also built on the principle of scarcity. This is so intrinsic to the design of our system, that like a fish can’t see water, we simply do not see the level to which we are embedded in this. In very simple words, in order for me to eat/survive (the coming economic collapse) someone else has to lose. This is our current model.
Take for example gold (and other precious metals), which many smart people cite as very important to stockpile in order to survive any coming collapse.
If we really are to practice integral, we must be mindful of the total cost of us stockpiling gold. For every 2 ounces of gold extracted, 20 tones is the norm of earth that needs to be mined. At what cost to the environment? At what cost to the communities that have made the mine areas their homes for hundreds of years? At what cost to their health and well being? And then what about all of the other costs? Like transport.. (For an article on the field effects of our every thought at action please see www.positive-deviant.com/field-effects.html)
I personally see that what is coming is a breakdown in the very system that you discuss in your portfolio building. We are moving towards a completely new economic model which makes all of the old obsolete. A model that is not built on endless exterior growth and scarcity, but on a higher consciousness of the field effects of everything we do.
To me building a portfolio such as you suggest simply sits right in to our current model. At its core it has scarcity. In order for me to survive, others cannot.
Now I am a mother and I can put my hand on my heart and say I would do anything to support the survival of my daughter. However, I know it is also time to ask a different set of questions, particularly if we even consider approaching “we are all one” as a truth.
Questions such as...
Is there a model that ensures the healthy emergence of all humanity? Surely that is the one we would be seeking?
Is there a new way of being in value exchange that honors all of life?
Are we integralist able to demonstrate now, a bridge that crosses from the very broken old model, to the new, yet to be born model? If so, what is that bridge? And I am specifically talking about a financial bridge. A way we do business together. Surely we need to be the leaders in this new model?
I am not anti having a strong financial foundation. However, I do believe that the future of a strong financial foundation is not the one you discuss. The fringe events that are likely to occur in the next few decades will catch almost all of us unprepared. The unforeseen like an attack on the computer cloud and a loss of ALL data (including the data about the amount of money in our bank accounts).
What does that mean to us as individuals with families to feed? Well, for a start, we have to start to recognise that it is not OK for my child to survive when millions do not.
The skills that we need more than anything are creativity, flexibility, entrepreneurship, a deep understanding of value (the conversation on value is well beyond the scope of this reply), the ability to collaborate, build community, ask much better questions; these are the kinds of investments I am interested in. And to invest my money in people who are living this way, who are building the models of the future. Those rare individuals who really get that the very system is breaking down and a new system is being born, and they are working their arses off to facilitate the transition. That is where my time, energy and money is going. And it is also what I am teaching my daughter as I develop her resilience and creativity.
I am an optimist. Where my knee jerk response is scarcity (and I have to fight this shadow element in me every day), I have to drag my fear of lack, fear of loss of security, fear of starving, fear of no money...what ever this fear is, and I have many..back to another place. A place where I truly believe in the creative ability of my fellow man, but only, and here is the rub, only, when they are pushed to the very edge.
We emerge through emergency.
All of our certainties...our investments in houses or stocks or bonds or precious metals..all of these things offer no security in the long run. History has shown this time and again. The greatest security is in our ability to rise through adversity and discover new and better pathways. This is the very principle of emergence. Couple this with a view that shifts from scarcity, to recognising where there is plenty (plenty of creativity, plenty of energy, plenty of talent, plenty of love..the very principle of positive deviance)..or even better, to discipline our thinking to seek the plenty rather than contract to the scarcity, this is where our healthy future lives.
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Thank you Robb
Posted April 29th, 2010 by Federico ParraThank you Robb.
For this gift, and for putting so much energy and effort in
the real-ization of the Integral Vision.
I hope the best for you and your people,
take care.
Federico