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Quadrants apply only to living beings?

I'm listening to Ken Wilber and Allan Combs, "Consciousness Explained Better," and just heard them say that quadrants refer only to living, conscious beings.

I had no idea. All this time, I was imagining quadrants applying to inanimate objects.

I thought of a computer as having an interior and exterior, a singular and plural.

The inside is what it's made of, all the elements, all the wires, the intelligence that went in to creating the inner workings of a computer. The inside is its functioning capabilities.

The outside singular is what it can do and does, what it looks like to us on the outside, how the inner workings of the computer are invisible to us. We just type and point and click, and all kinds of magic takes place in the inside. We just see the results.

The lower left would be the relationship it has with us humans.

Lower right would be the whole technological web of information being shared and utilized around the world.

All of this could be applied to flowers and mountains and light poles, too. Of course, the conscious part of the relationship would be on the human side, but that doesn't mean that the computer and flowers, etc., don't have an inside and outside for us to relate to. And singular and plural, as well.

It's funny, when I learned about the four quadrants, I always assumed they applied to everything, and that's how I thought of them. So when they said inanimate objects don't have quadrants, it just surprised me.

Roshana

 

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Hi Roshana -

Technically quadrants apply only to sentient beings. Who knows where sentience start? The line between sentience and living is a subject of some debate actually.  So any sentient being has four quadrants or perspectives through which to look.

When you refer to an artifact, or object, like a computer you can view that computer through quadrivia, which gives you distinct angles of perception of its beingness in the world.  So a lower-right quadrivial view of the computer will yield a different set of data and outcomes than a lower-left quadrivial view, and so forth.  But the computer does not have quadrants itself.

Sometimes we get lazy in the integral community and talk about objects as if they have quadrants or as if an object exists in a given quadrant (which is not right either, because only a kosmic address can specify something's existence, at least according to integral post-metaphysics).  What we really mean is that we're looking at that object through a given quadrivium (e.g., upper-right) and by doing so we're "placing it" in a given quadrant of our perception (i.e., upper-right). 

This is still abstract, but I hope it helps.

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Robb Smith