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Integral Blind Spot
Inspired by a talk by Terry Patten one week one day ago the question was presented:
How could we come together as a group to manifest a large positive difference in the World?
To date there has not yet been one positive attempt (bother?) to address this question. Please don't look away. Selfless service, charity, generosity, engaged Buddhism, sacred activism; I looked for this module in my Integral Life Practice Book and it is not there. I looked for this tab on our website and there is no such tab. It is beginning to look like this is, if not a blind spot, at least a very dim spot for our community. Well this means that it is a place for potential future growth. Let's plant some seeds.
How could we come together as a group to manifest a large positive difference in the World? I am not an expert here but I'll give this an attempt.
First we can learn all we can learn from people who are blazing the path ahead of us like Bernie Glassman. Andrew Harvey gave a nice talk on sacred activism; http://www.myss.com/CMED/media/index.asp?Sub=9
As an internet community we could decide on an integral/evolutionary/compassionate cause we could have some impact on, contribute our pennies and dollars, combine these with our knowledge, skills and abilities, do something, and see how our integral theory actually works out in the world of starvation, poverty, corruption, war, and extinction.
We could offer benefit retreats and do the above on a larger scale. As possible examples it would be really cool if we could stop a small war or bring a sustainable end to starvation in a small corner of our world. If not us than who?
Are we yet ready to begin getting over our neurotic fascination with our misconception of our collective egoistic impotence?
Are we beginning to be ready for the supreme adventure?
What unique gifts could our integral community bring to the growing army of wise and compassionate servants?
How might our service be different and more effective than the service offered at the traditional, modern, and post modern levels?
What would that look like?
What will that be like?
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The full moon has a way of bringing things to a head. . .
Posted February 28th, 2010 by Charles BowlingNormal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4
Hi Stanley,
I'm all for a compassionate response to the manifold suffering of our world; however, commensurate with a growth in compassion, a matching growth in wisdom is required if unintended consequences are to be avoided.
I can't speak for the actions of any group, proposed or otherwise; but the way i deal with this question in my own life is to address only those issues that appear directly in front of me, and to give those unique issues the very best of which i am capable. This is based on the notion that it's better to apply myself to my own dharma than that of someone else.
I have dharma here at Integral Life; and you have raised this question. So my call is for clarity, what for example, does this quote of yours mean? "Are we yet ready to begin getting over our neurotic fascination with our misconception of our collective egoistic impotence?"
Not only is it unclear to me, but it appears to be gobbledygook; and fails to inspire the sort of confidence required for me to support any group activity based on it.
From my view, the integral impulse requires more of us than good intentions.
Warmly,
Charles
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One more thing...
Posted March 1st, 2010 by RaulIn response to your questions about "the gifts of our integral community...", "how might our service be different...", and "what would that look like...":
Among the gifts we have, though not unique to this community, are a variety of meditative, contemplative or spiritual practices by which we can learn self-observation, detachment and other ways to notice and catch ourselves in states of emotional reactivity, contraction and defensiveness. These disciplines of attention and will can allow us to pause from unconscious, conditioned reactivity and then move to appropriate response.
The widespread application of these practices and ways of being/doing would have an enormously positive effect on how we might serve differently — if not for anything else, because it might cause us to engage others, perhaps especially those within our own community, with more than just patience and tolerance, but with actual respect and dignity.
So, basically what I'm saying is that it would be different—and would make a big difference—if we actually applied what we already know and practice it at ever-deeper levels in our interactions and relationships with each other.
Peace,
Raúl
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Positive communities critical masses etc
Posted March 17th, 2010 by Dick PoelDear Terry,
In The Netherlands and its seems als in Sweden Norway and Denmark is a large movement around O. Scharmers Theory U. Ken has been speaking with him about it. Within this community is a lot happening which is about a new way of working, thinking and acting in the world. The alignment of head, heart and hands. We have f.e. been talking in Amsterdam about creating an Economy of Friendship. Really listening to each other, becoming an authentic human being developing her real potential by Meditating and turn actions into Meditation in Action. Very positive and very promising. Everybody knows that it is essential to pay attention. But what does it really mean..........individually and collectively....to pay attention.
Dick Poel
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Thanks, I needed that....
Posted March 17th, 2010 by Martin SchoenNormal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4
Bravo!
What I know thus far is that people like those below keep kicking my ass and showing me how far I have to go to really be “enlightened” or “Integral” or whatever:
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“The solidarity of the progressive world with the Vietnamese people has something of the bitter irony of the plebeians cheering on the gladiators in the Roman Circus. To wish the victim success is not enough; one must share his fate. One must join him in death or in victory.”—Che Guevara
“Solidarity means sharing the same risks.”—Che Guevara
“Anger at injustice is the political expression of love.”—attributed to Martin Luther King
"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Without people, nothing is possible, but without institutions, nothing is enduring."—Jean Monnet, the great postwar French civic leader
"Human institutions prepare people for continuity, not for change."—Gail Sheehy
"When a cause comes along and you know in your bones that it is just, yet refuse to defend it—at that moment you begin to die. And I have never seen so many corpses walking around talking about justice."—Mumia Abu-Jamal
“Take it easy, but take it.”—Old Labor Movement slogan with which Studs Terkel signed off his radio program
"The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it."—Karl Marx
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself."—Leo Tolstoy
"The pessimist complains about the wind; The optimist expects it to change; The realist adjusts the sails."—William Arthur Ward
“All men love the smell of their own farts”—Old Icelandic proverb relevant to people—especially politicians—believing their own lies
“Anyone working for a saner world will, from time to time, be faced with the choice of caring for present suffering or working to remove the cause of suffering. The choice is always painful. More so because we know that a preoccupation with present suffering—of which there is apparently an inexhaustible supply—is a means of social control. We all know people who have become so involved in caring for present suffering that they have not time and eventually no optimism for the radical changes which would remove the source of the problem.”—Larry Law from Spectacular Times pamphlet series
“I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves.”—Che Guevara
“Who struggles can fail. Who doesn't struggle has already failed!”—Bertolt Brecht
"We know how to transform this world to reduce our impact on nature by several fold, how to provide meaningful, dignified living-wage jobs for all who seek them, and how to feed, clothe, and house every person on earth. What we don't know is how to remove those in power, those whose ignorance of biology is matched only by their indifference to human suffering. This is a political issue. It is not an ecological problem."—Paul Hawken, from a speech in Oct. 2002
“We don't need civility. We need civilization, which is something very different. The ancient Greeks were civilized. They had fiery debates, which were far from civil. The Melian dialogue, put by the historian Thucydides in the mouths of the Melians and the Athenians about to overwhelm them, is one of the glories of the world. It is also an uncivil, harsh evocation of the political realities of imperial power. Bipartisanship is another fraud word, which reminds me of the anthropologist Laura Nader's brilliant phrase ‘coercive harmony.’ And how cozening a word is this "community," with its agreeable intimations of the village, the meeting hall and the amiable ethic of all-for-one-and-one-for-all. But America is not a community. It is a nation encompassing faction, partisan interest, the powerful, the weak, the rich, the poor -- with a future to be alloyed out of the crucible of fierce antagonism.” –Alexander Cockburn, in The Nation, 2/10/97
"If you don't turn on to politics, politics will turn on you."–Ralph Nader
"Freedom is participation in power.”–Cicero
“Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it.”—Arabic saying
"If the world were merely seductive, that would be easy. If it were merely challenging, that would be no problem. But I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world, and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day."- E.B. White
"One final paragraph of advice: do not burn yourselves out. Be as I am - a reluctant enthusiast - a part-time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic. Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it's still here. So get out there and hunt and fish and mess around with your friends, ramble out yonder and explore the forests, climb the mountains, bag the peaks, run the rivers, breathe deep of that yet sweet and lucid air, sit quietly for awhile and contemplate the precious stillness, the lovely, mysterious and awesome space. Enjoy yourselves, keep your brain in your head and your head firmly attached to the body, the body active and alive, and I promise you this much; I promise you this one sweet victory over our enemies, over those desk- bound men and women with their hearts in a safe deposit box, and their eyes hypnotized by desk calculators. I promise you this; You will outlive the bastards."–Edward Abbey
"The only kinds of fights worth fighting are those you're going to lose, because somebody has to fight them and lose and lose and lose until someday, somebody who believes as you do wins. In order for somebody to win an important, major fight 100 years hence, a lot of other people have got be willing -- for the sheer fun and joy of it -- to go right ahead and fight, knowing you're going to lose. You mustn't feel like a martyr. You've got to enjoy it."--independent and incorruptible journalist, I. F. "Izzy" Stone
“Compassion in action is paradoxical and mysterious. It is absolute yet continually changing. It accepts that everything is happening exactly as it should, and it works with a full-hearted commitment to change. It sets goals but knows that the process is all there is. It is joyful in the midst of suffering and hopeful in the face of overwhelming odds. It is simple in a world of complexity and confusion. It is done for others, but it nurtures the self. It shields in order to be strong. It intends to eliminate suffering, knowing that suffering is limitless. It is action arising from emptiness.”—Ram Dass, from “Compassion in Action: Setting Out On the Path of Service” by Ram Dass & Mirabai Bush
"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up."--Lily Tomlin
"Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us."--Jerry Garcia
And finally:
"It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it."--Joseph Joubert (1754-1824, French moralist)
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Indeed coordinated action is one of the most needed things in any movement.
Posted March 17th, 2010 by TurilBecause a movement requires movement! :-)
My suggestion is to focus on making sure that as many humans as possible have unconditional access to what humans need most to be healthy - the very bottom two levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs (which correspond to the Infrared level in AQAL:
- Whole food,
- Clean water
- Fresh Air
- Warmth
- Light
- The Freedom to express themselves physically.
The first five are the very first level of interior individual needs (Physiological), and the last one is the first level of exterior individual needs (Maslow called it "Safety" while I call it "Freedom").
When everyone has these basic needs met, they will naturally move up the levels of development, so it's in everyone's interest that everyone does have these needs met, unconditionally.
Unfortunately, nearly everyone, even in the modern world, is deficient in one or more of these regularly, so our growth and development and health are stunted. Our air is polluted, our water intentionally and unintentionally dosed with toxins and drugs, most of our "food" is a joke, and most people don't get enough sunlight because they've been brainwashed by mainstream media and "modern" society to have the insane belief that being stuck in an office, car, or school all day long is better than being out in the real world of nature. Warmth is the only one that we do reasonably well with in the modern world. Though having been homeless myself, I know all too well how easy it is to lose that warmth when no one wants you in their home, and shelters are more like jails than places to be safe and taken care of.
So yeah, I'd say that the number one thing we can all work on, together and separately, is to repeat this simple message as the goal we are all working for:
All communities, of all sizes, function better when each individual has their six most basic needs met unconditionally - food, water, air, warmth, light, and freedom - so this is our shared goal, locally and globally.
Personally, I try to spend at least a couple of hours a day bringing the highest quality of at least one of these things into my life. And doing this simple ritual has significantly improved my life and my ability to do good work, which is why I encourage everyone to do something similar.
Peace, Love, and Bicycles,
Turil
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How could you complain of an integral blindspot and miss Integral Ethics???
Posted March 18th, 2010 by John IrelandYou said: "To date there has not yet been one positive attempt (bother?) to address this question. Please don't look away. Selfless service, charity, generosity, engaged Buddhism, sacred activism; I looked for this module in my Integral Life Practice Book and it is not there."
I hate to break it to you, but it is.
I suppose if you're searching ILP (book) looking for the exact terms of engaged Buddhism or Sacred activism, or chapters and chapters on those subjects, then ya, you'll be sorely disappointed. But it only took me a few cursory glances through the chapter on Ethics to find refrences to "how we care for the systems and environmen...including government, schools, health system, justic system, etc." and "how can we make this system serve the greatest depth for the greatest span?"
or "The environmental movement's central concern is the earth system... so when we deal with questions of conservation, renewable energy, recycling, sustainability, land use, etc., these are Lower-Right ethical concerns. Civic responsibility, social actvism, and political action engage both the LL and LR quadrants, often in the SERVICE of evolving our institutions." p.268
Under the heading "Three Reasons for Living Ethically": "Living ethically enables you... to bless others freely. You find yourself living in a field of goodwill."
"Ethics is not only how we can express care and compassion for others..."
On pg. 270 "Anytime you take another's perspective , not only do you better serve that person..." and "Ultimately...we start actively attempting to do good--through compassionate service and even a passionate personal mission."
Under a section describing how Integral Ethics is not meek or mild: "Healthy care begins with care for self and extends in concentric circles to care for our family, friends, community, and world. We care for self and others, not others instead of self." p.276 "
Then they get into a whole page on "Expanded Ethical Responsibities" (p.282) "Am I responsible for the behaviour of the orginization for which I work? For the insitution I belong to? My community? My culture at large? My nation? ...these groups have no locus of responsibility other than their individual members... No way around it, we each do have some real and crucial responsibility." To me this easily and obviously translates into sacred activism.
And ILP finishes the Ethics chapter highlighting how "our practice can be ethical in the sense that is heartfelt, caring and generous... Expand joyfully into profound and ever-growing freedom and responsibility."
So I think your criticism of the book is unfounded. I'm sure they could expand so many details of ILP that it could be 4 volumes easily. But the fact is that it is we who have to take those few words of service and generosity and responsibility and put them into practice and creatively figure it out in the real world. And since I'm new to Integral Life, maybe your point is indeed justified in light of what's being--OR NOT BEING--emphasized on-line or in day to day life.
Sincerely,
John
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Even a small personal or collective difference is better than none
Posted March 18th, 2010 by Rob Schneider--I have also noticed a rather yawning gap between theory and practice in the integral community. While it would be great to stop a small or even a large war, if the inspiration is there, a difference can be made even on the smallest of scales. I was inspired to try to help the children of the Sihanoukville dumpsite a couple of years ago when I was taken for a ride out there by a neighbor. I helped my neighbor start a small NGO (charity). I signed on as secretary, while he, being Cambodian, became director. My duties included everything to do with the English language, including fund raising, bookkeeping, making a website and managing the email.
It was hard work and I'm the first to admit that I was not the ideal candidate for the job. However, we attracted enough funds to make a difference and even got a cottage industry (handmade paper and Christmas cards) going. After a year I was burnt out and broke. Serendipity stepped in in the form of a young Danish man, who got funding for a house for the children in a neighboring village. I passed the baton on to him and got a "real" job, since I didn't want to end up living on the dumpsite myself. Now, 1 1/2 years later, 30 children who formerly lived and worked on a dumpsite have a home, clean water, 2 meals a day and they attend school regularly. They've integrated into the village community and no attempt has been made to westernize them. In my view, at least, that's a big plus.
If I've failed to make it clear before that there was nothing heroic about the small part I played, let me make it clear now. I made a million mistakes and could have done the job infinitely better. I'm not trying to be humble - it's just true. I also have a lot of reservations about NGO's in general, so I'm not advocating that either. The bottom line, though, is that now these kids have a chance, whereas before they had none. The larger NGO's in Sihanoukville had been unsuccessful at the dumpsite for a variety of reasons, one of them being that the community didn't trust them, largely because of their large size and impersonal approach.
While I've found a lot of value in integral theory or however you like to label it, in my opinion, it remains theory and is useless until it's put into practice, personally or collectively. It's irrelevant whether or not we're operating from a "green meme" level or a more exalted level of consciousness, just as long as we're operating at a higher level than personal gratification, be it physical, emotional, intellectual or spiritual. That's the lesson I learned from my experience, anyway. I was only motivated to do anything after seeing the kids' plight first hand. I trust you can do better than that in your communities.
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Even a small personal or collective difference is better than none
Posted March 18th, 2010 by Rob Schneider--I have also noticed a rather yawning gap between theory and practice in the integral community. While it would be great to stop a small or even a large war, if the inspiration is there, a difference can be made even on the smallest of scales. I was inspired to try to help the children of the Sihanoukville dumpsite a couple of years ago when I was taken for a ride out there by a neighbor. I helped my neighbor start a small NGO (charity). I signed on as secretary, while he, being Cambodian, became director. My duties included everything to do with the English language, including fund raising, bookkeeping, making a website and managing the email.
It was hard work and I'm the first to admit that I was not the ideal candidate for the job. However, we attracted enough funds to make a difference and even got a cottage industry (handmade paper and Christmas cards) going. After a year I was burnt out and broke. Serendipity stepped in in the form of a young Danish man, who got funding for a house for the children in a neighboring village. I passed the baton on to him and got a "real" job, since I didn't want to end up living on the dumpsite myself. Now, 1 1/2 years later, 30 children who formerly lived and worked on a dumpsite have a home, clean water, 2 meals a day and they attend school regularly. They've integrated into the village community and no attempt has been made to westernize them. In my view, at least, that's a big plus.
If I've failed to make it clear before that there was nothing heroic about the small part I played, let me make it clear now. I made a million mistakes and could have done the job infinitely better. I'm not trying to be humble - it's just true. I also have a lot of reservations about NGO's in general, so I'm not advocating that either. The bottom line, though, is that now these kids have a chance, whereas before they had none. The larger NGO's in Sihanoukville had been unsuccessful at the dumpsite for a variety of reasons, one of them being that the community didn't trust them, largely because of their large size and impersonal approach.
While I've found a lot of value in integral theory or however you like to label it, in my opinion, it remains theory and is useless until it's put into practice, personally or collectively. It's irrelevant whether or not we're operating from a "green meme" level or a more exalted level of consciousness, just as long as we're operating at a higher level than personal gratification, be it physical, emotional, intellectual or spiritual. That's the lesson I learned from my experience, anyway. I was only motivated to do anything after seeing the kids' plight first hand. I trust you can do better than that in your communities.
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Alternation between theory and practice, objectivity and subjectivity
Posted March 19th, 2010 by Vivi Mari CarpelanGood job you're bringing this up. Well... it seems to me that personal development comprises at least one theoretical and practical phase. By this I mean that most intellectually inclined people get excited about a certain worldview or beliefsystem tend to read up on things and organize their rational views for a while. I did just that but after a number of years of constructing the backbones of my worldview I got naturally bored with the limitations of intellectual thought. I say "naturally" because it felt just that; natural. There was only so much I could learn theoretically until it started to feel stale, repetitive and of course, most of all, removed from the actual fact of existing in this particular reality. When I think about it, I seem to recall some similar feelings coming to me earlier on in my life. To me it looks as though there's a wave-movement that alternates theory and practice in various forms throughout my life, some phases being more obvious than others. This resonates with my belief that all phenomena do in fact alternate in a yin/yang sort of fashion as they change with the progression of time.
Unfortunately, one can get stuck in a phase and resist change. It's easy to spot this sort of state of being in some people as they will invariably sound stifled and dogmatic in their intellectual approach to life's issues. So - there's nothing wrong with a theoretical framework, but it has to be integrated into one's personal being and way of life. Each one of us has to find their own way of doing it as it's bound to be a test and challenge to our individual uniqueness. Therefore, there is no textbook out there that will explain exactly how to do it so that it is right for you.This is a deeply subjective experience as opposed to the ingestion of theoretical knowledge that one might characterize as more objective in nature. It might even be difficult to talk and share these things with other people as they are so subjective and often quite emotional. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why we don't see much talk about the more practical approach of people who are serious spiritual seekers? It's in the very nature of practical experience and field work (so to speak) that it's "out there" far away from the chair by the computer or the vicinity of a library. Perhaps it's also something people don't feel inclined to demonstrate on an intellectual internet forum because they fear being labeled "subjective" and not taken seriously.
I don't know... these are just a few thoughts that come to mind. I am also a bit concerned about the gap between people who enjoy their armchair philosphy and those who passionately engage in changing the world on the practical level. As an intellectual, it's easy to become complacent or disenchanted as one witnesses and understands ignorance within society. I have certainly felt that myself (e.g. "there is too much to be done and I want to make a BIG difference if there is to be one") and have to work so as not to get too sucked into such feelings. As it happens, my life seems to present me with challenges in the real world that help me confront some difficulties I may be experiencing in engaging in some work of a very practical nature (e.g. regarding social injustice) that meets with so much resistance from those in charge of the bigger decisions in society. It's a bit of a cliché but I guess it does boild down to a matter of being aware of the opportunities of growth and change, but also of finding out what is your own personal way of making a difference.
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An Update
Posted March 19th, 2010 by StanleyI noticed that Terry Patten, the man who inspired this post, will be beginning an integral practice community on March 24th in the San Francisco Bay Area, http://www.integralheart.com/events/practicing-integral-spirituality-with-terry-patten-craig-hamilton
It will be interesting to see if a part of this practice will include some sort of sacred service.
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Posted February 28th, 2010 by RaulHi Stanley,
I'm with you in believing that the integral view, and this integral community, has a lot to contribute to making a "large positive difference in the World." I suspect they (both the view and the community) already have had a positive influence. To what extent, I wouldn't know; I've been mostly on the periphery of the community for a few years (presented at the Integral Without Borders gathering and did a workshop at Integral Theory Conference, both in 2008). Most of the people with whom I work and collaborate on making a difference in the world are not aware of or interested in integral theory.
And, sadly for me, most of the people I've met in integral community are not very into social justice work. In fact, my experience has been that at the first mention of "social justice", "oppression" or "liberation" I get immediately pegged as "green" (and mean green meme at that!) and, given an apparent aversion within the community to this inevitable developmental stage, that's the end of the conversation, or at best the beginning of a fruitless debate. Perhaps like you, I tend to believe it is because of this "integral blind spot."
Having said that, I have come to meet and know a growing number of people who are interested in both integral theory and social justice practice, though they tend to struggle reconcile these seemingly divergent worldviews.
You see, virtually everyone I know that is trying to make a positive difference in the world is quite clear that the major issues and problems of our times have to do with oppression in its many forms. And for many, their involvement—whether in anti-racism education or community organizing or getting the Navy to clear up the environmental mess it left in Vieques or ending US military interventions around the world or global climate crisis—is guided by their understanding (or intuition) that peace is an outcome of justice. And that justice is a consequence of solidarity. And that solidarity is the result of empathy. And that empathy requires compassion. And all of these are expressions of Love. And that Unity is not possible without them.
So, perhaps there will be more people within this integral community who respond to your, and Terry Patten's, call to come together as a group to make a positive difference in the world. If that response is based on an integral analysis of that includes liberation from oppression as transformative practice and a path to integral consciousness, then please, count me in.
Many blessing,
Raúl Quiñones-Rosado, Ph.D.