hat is the difference between being “resilient” and being “antifragile”?
In this fascinating episode of Integral Justice Warrior, Diane and Corey are joined by Gail Hochachka and Rob McNamara to explore anti-fragile approaches to climate change. We are also joined by fellow integral enthusiast Deb Collins, who offers her own perspectives around the tragic wild fires that swept across the Australian continent.
Antifragility is a concept made popular by author Nassim Nicolas Taleb in his book, Antifragile: Things that Gain From Disorder, in which Taleb posits three different characteristics any given system can have:
- Fragile systems tend to fall apart when hit with a system shock.
- Resilient systems (or “robust systems”) tend to stay the same when hit with a system shock.
- Antifragile systems actually change and evolve when hit with a system shock.
As it becomes increasingly clear just how fragile our ecological, economic, and political systems have become, it is also becoming increasingly important that we begin to meet the many fragilities of our time with a genuinely anti-fragile response — after all, fragile reactions only produce more fragility. We are looking for solutions that are far more comfortable with volatility and uncertainty, and that can actually help systems and organizations evolve in the face of ongoing disruption. Solutions that do not deny the existence of fragility, but rather seek to increase their own anti-fragility by working to reduce fragility in the world, wherever we find it.
In this episode we discuss how naturally anti-fragile the integral sensibility is, thanks largely to its fluency with multiple perspectives and value sets, as well as its access to meta-aware cognition (awareness of awareness) that allows integral practitioners to bring far more presence, patience, humility, and humor to conversations like these. After all, it’s hard to think of a better slogan for our own capacity for anti-fragility than Ken Wilber’s famous line, “Hurts more, bothers you less” — an integration of both tender fragility and unshakable resilience, allowing us to respond to the needs and pressures of the moment with both bottomless compassion and unwavering equanimity.
So join us in this fascinating discussion of fragility, resilience, and anti-fragility in the heart of the Anthropocene.
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Text by Corey deVos
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About Diane Hamilton
Diane is a uniquely gifted, playful, and awake group facilitator, consultant and teacher of Integral Spirituality and Zen. She is a lineage holder in the Soto Zen tradition, and has collaborated with the Integral Institute and Ken Wilber since 2004, developing the Integral Life Practice seminars and the Integral Spiritual Experience global events.
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Corey W. deVos is Editor-in-Chief of Integral Life, as well as Managing Editor of KenWilber.com. He has worked for Integral Institute/Integal Life since Spring of 2003, and has been a student of integral theory and practice since 1996. Corey is also a professional woodworker, and many of his artworks can be found in his VisionLogix art gallery.
I love conversations when one of those rare “stopping the world” moments occurs, when someone says something pointed that is contextually relevant to the discussion, but that instantly expands the conversation, making it more inclusive of ‘other’ or ‘others.’ Deb did this for me in this conversation, when she questioned ‘how to talk about the environment being anti-fragile.’ Everyone then began to “speak Earth,” from burnt flora to wombats, and this grounded the conversation less in concept and theory (which I love), and more in an embodiment of felt-loss, for the planet and inclusive of all its inhabitants, which is, imo, an aspect of climate change effects we shouldn’t drift too far from in our talks (without becoming too morbid or alarmist, of course). So thank you Deb, and thanks to all of you. It was a great conversation and I appreciated being introduced to Taleb’s anti-fragility theories, which I do think KW sums up quite well with “hurts more, bothers you less.”
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