Insurrection, Censorship, and Madness

Mark Fischler Integral Justice Warrior, Perspectives, Politics, Video, World Affairs 1 Comment


n January 6, 2021 a pro-Trump protest at the capitol building turned into a violent riot and insurrection, the first time the Capitol building was breached by a large group since it was burned to the ground in 1814.

The rioters beat one police officer to death with a fire extinguisher, and wounded another officer by beating him with an American flag while onlookers sang the Star Spangled Banner.

Four of Donald Trump’s supporters were killed during the violent insurrection at the Capitol, including one woman who was fatally shot by Capitol police, and another who was apparently trampled by fellow Trump supporters while holding a “Don’t Tread on Me” sign.

These rioters were apparently egged on by Trump himself, as well as by his attorney Rudy Giuliani (who was calling for “trial by combat” that very same day) and other pro-Trump voices like Lin Wood (who made an infamous Twitter post that said “Get the firing squads ready. Pence goes FIRST.”)

Watch as Mark and I take an in-depth look at the heart-breaking events at the Capitol, offering our own full-spectrum response to this American travesty. We also discuss the response coming from corporations such as Google, Twitter, and Facebook, who are now beginning to purge their platforms of far-right voices and Q anon supporters. Is censorship ever the right thing to do? If you think you have a simple answer to the question, you might be missing something important.

Topics include:

3:32 — Did Trump incite a riot?
15:01 — Was this comparable to BLM-related violence?
21:26 — The Age of Aperspectival Madness
45:19 — When plutocrats pose as populists
49:40 — A return to deep literacy and critical thinking
1:02:44 — Mark & Corey’s full-spectrum response to the insurrection at the Capitol
1:21:57 — Rights vs. what’s right: Big Tech censorship
1:58:27 — Looking ahead: the consequences of Georgia

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A note from Mark

As I contemplate the seemingly intractable divide in our politics I am broken hearted. The willingness to leave the echo chambers of those that only agree with our current point of view and engage with folks who have a different perspective is a rare act. And that my friends is a problem we must solve. Because at our essence we all seek happiness. At our essence we all seek to root out suffering.

It’s interesting because at least in terms of our personal behavior the wisdom traditions are unified across the board on how to root out suffering and live a happy existence. They tell us to contemplate who we are to the point where ego identification becomes very questionable (not solid). They tell us to think of others and take real steps to make their life better. Because the truth is we are all interconnected and the solid egoic self does not exist. In reality everything we say do, and touch has an impact on everyone, the planet and all its inhabitants. EVERYTHING. Which is why we are all brothers and sisters and in essence ONE. Which is why our intentions need to always be about HELPING THE WORLD.

What if we were able to realize that absolute truth first before we lay the blame of our miseries on others? What if we asked ourselves if every post or conversation I have is in the spirit of making this world a better place, keeping in mind the fact that we are all interconnected?

Let’s hit the pause button on being so sure we know the right path to ensure domestic wellbeing for all of our people. Let’s have the humility to enter into a dialogue with our brothers and sisters who may see the world differently than us and use our words in the conversation in a way where we know it’s for the purpose to get it right and not be right. Curiosity, natural compassion and an open mind are the keys to relieving us of the Grand Canyon divide we currently face.

We’ve got some difficult days ahead my friends. Let’s be clear about each of our purposes and who the person across from you really is. They are Your BROTHER AND SISTER. Heartfelt blessings to every one of you on the days ahead. Mark ❤️

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Mark Fischler

About Mark Fischler

Professor Fischler has worked extensively with alternative theoretical models in law, constitutional law, and higher education, and has published on integral applications to teaching, being a lawyer, and legal theory. His focus in the classroom is ethics and criminal procedure, and he is well respected for a teaching philosophy that emphasizes recognizing the humanity and dignity of each student.

Corey deVos

About Corey deVos

Corey W. deVos is the proverbial "man behind the curtain". He is Editor-in-Chief of Integral Life, as well as Managing Editor of He has worked for Integral Institute/Integal Life since Spring of 2003, and has been a student of integral theory and practice since 1996.

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  1. Thank you Mark for your inspirational truths here, and I agree with Corey that this IJW discussion is probably the best “full-spectrum response” to the January 6 events anyone will find, and I hope the IL community and myriad others tune in.

    Perhaps I am living in the “calm before the (next) storm,” but I’m actually feeling a bit of real hope, seeing the response over the past 9 days. When I first viewed the rioting event, and noted a seemingly restrained response from the Capitol Police, I was a little shocked. But now I tend to see the perfection in it all. While certainly not consciously intended as such, it seems to me the initial feeble and inadequate response from the Police was a bit like an Aikido move: using the energy of the opponent against them. Unable (or perhaps in some cases, unwilling) to restrain the insurrectionists, the Capitol law enforcement afforded the rioters the opportunity to record themselves in selfies and videos which they posted on social media, leading to their identification, and subsequent arrests. What a move!

    And now, there seems to be a sweeping effort to address not only the threat of violent domestic extremism, but perhaps even racism in law enforcement and aspects of the military, according to numerous investigations that have been called for. With tech platforms taking some better-late-than-never action and multiple corporations and organizations cutting or vowing to cut funding to politicians complicit in advancing the idea of voter fraud and trying to delegitimize the presidential election, that too is a part of a necessary coming to terms with accountability.

    What I have been reflecting on is how so much of this was foreseeable five years ago with Trump’s beginning campaign, initiated with the Obama birther-ism lie, his comments about Mexicans being rapists and such, and his “Access Hollywood” comments about grabbing women you-know-where, and how “if you’re a star, you can get away with it.” His “stardom” has allowed him to get away with that and so much more.

    In the early days, we (or at least the majority of us) worried that the lying would become normalized, and indeed this happened, for about 40% of the electorate at least, about 75-80% of the Republican party. “Trump is not the cause, but the symptom” was a constant refrain, and while there’s some truth in this, I personally have never seen it as an either-or; Trump, imo, was/is both symptom and cause of a lot of damage to democracy and institutions, to civil society. More people are acknowledging that now, including the 10 (a mere 10, or about 4.5%) House Republicans who have voted for impeachment. Mitt Romney was the first Republican to put into words that the insurrection on Jan. 6 was largely due to members of his party not telling their supporters the truth, but a few others are chiming in likewise, and that’s a good sign.

    But about those 10 Republican House members who voted for impeachment–while women make up about 12% of the Republican House caucus, 20% (2) of the ten who voted for impeachment were women. I mention this in the context of Trump’s comments about “grabbing women…” Some two dozen women have accused Trump of some kind of sexual misconduct, including rape; that’s a remarkable number and his ex-wife has said he beat and raped her as well. Research has shown that cultures or communities where women are oppressed or subject to violence or intimidation are more unstable cultures, more militaristic, and more likely to engage in warfare. To me, there is some correlation here between Trump’s (credibly) alleged behavior towards women (and children, we could add–as in cages) and his and his band of extremist-warriors’ militancy. That he supposedly told his V.P, trying to get Pence to reject the states’ certified electors, “you can either be a patriot or a pussy” speaks volumes about the connection.

    Finally, a suggested topic for a future IJW episode would be on the doctrine of Manifest Destiny. Mark probably has some good knowledge here. With people like Franklin Graham, arguably the most influential Christian spokesperson, saying the 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump this second time have “betrayed Christ,” and numerous other Christian pastors and leaders saying similar things, well, that speaks loudly about the white Christian nationalism among Trump supporters. While Trump supporters are not a monolithic group, and there are indeed real economic and social problems that need addressed, so do some of these ideologies, and understanding their historical roots in the U.S., their positives and negatives and effects on politics would probably be useful.

    And one last finally…a little sardonic humor. A journalist I read who was otherwise writing a fairly decent article on the subject said we should declare and treat misinformation and disinformation as a “public health crisis”–with nary a nod to how dismally we’ve failed with the pandemic. You gotta laugh.

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