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t’s hard to think of a problem more wicked than the Israel/Palestine. In recent weeks our social media feeds have been flooded with truly heartbreaking videos of violence and displacement, prompting some to go as far as to declare Israel an apartheid state. But as is often the case, reality remains far too complicated to fit into such oversimplified narratives. As I say in the discussion, this is one of those problems where the more I learn about it, the less I feel I understand.
It’s hard to know how to move forward. Fortunately our special guest today, Magdalena Smieszek, has some really good ideas. Magdalena is an international human rights lawyer who has spent a good deal of time in the region, and who is using integral ideas, perspectives, and practices in order to reduce suffering in the world. She is a truly inspiring and deeply accomplished woman, and we are thrilled to have her on the show with us today to help us make more integral sense of the Israel/Palestine conflict, and how we might begin to loosen this Gordian knot.
Watch as Magdalena, Mark, and I explore the long and complex history of the region, offer our own thoughts on whether Israel qualifies as an “apartheid state”, and suggest some next step solutions in order to inch ourselves closer to genuine peace, stability, and justice for the men, women, and children on all sides of this seemingly intractable conflict.
0:00 — Introducing Magdalena
12:26 — A Brief History of the Israel/Palestine Conflict
37:23 – Is Israel an Apartheid State?
58:51 — How can Integral Ideas Help?
1:16:02 — Evolutionary Optimism
1:30:52 — The Power of Nonviolence
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Written and produced by Corey deVos
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About Magdalena Smieszek
Magdalena Smieszek is a human rights advocate, activist, and educator, having lectured widely and worked around the world with humanitarian and development organizations, including a decade with the United Nations. She had recently joined Al Quds Bard College for Arts and Sciences in East Jerusalem as visiting professor. In addition to doctoral work at Central European University, she has completed degrees in international law at universities of Oxford, Windsor, and Calgary. She is active in numerous forums in advancing human-self knowledge, including hosting a podcast series called How We Are Human.
About Mark Fischler
Professor Fischler has worked extensively with alternative theoretical models in law, constitutional law, and higher education, and has published on integral applications to teaching, being a lawyer, and legal theory. His focus in the classroom is ethics and criminal procedure, and he is well respected for a teaching philosophy that emphasizes recognizing the humanity and dignity of each student.
About Corey deVos
Corey W. deVos is Editor-in-Chief of Integral Life, as well as Managing Editor of KenWilber.com. He has worked for Integral Institute/Integal Life since Spring of 2003, and has been a student of integral theory and practice since 1996. Corey is also a professional woodworker, and many of his artworks can be found in his VisionLogix art gallery.