In this episode 13 chapters
- Integral Thought vs. Integral Thinking
Corey separates the products of integral theory from the thinking that creates them.
- Every Stage Adds a Perspective
Ken argues that integral thinking is about how we look, and that each stage of development adds a new perspective.
- From Pluralism to Paradigms
Green can tell cultural systems apart but can't integrate them, while teal and turquoise can unify the differences.
- Santa Claus Is Real
From Bohr's atoms to string theory, each stage treats its leading theory as reality.
- Insides, Outsides, and the First Frog
Every holon has an interior and an exterior, and language lets us exchange perspectives, which Corey calls the 'miracle of we'.
- Who, How, and What
First-, second- and third-person pronouns reflect four real quadrants.
- Transcend and Include, Moment to Moment
Ken grounds enfoldment in Whitehead's prehension: each moment includes the one before and adds novelty, which drives growing complexity.
- Rungs Versus Views
Higher stages keep the cognitive rungs of earlier stages but lose their views, which is why nostalgia rarely satisfies.
- Try the Paradigm First
You have no warrant to deny another paradigm's data, such as Zen satori, until you have practiced that paradigm yourself.
- Green's Broken Leading Edge
Corey describes a generational shift from macro visions to micro-level focus.
- Freedom Versus Equality
Orange wants equal opportunity and green wants equal outcome.
- Small Doses of Integral
Only a move to second tier, with about 10% of the population at teal, can integrate the warring values.
- Mushroom Clouds and Blue Marbles
Each generation's defining images shape how it enacts key words and how it receives integral ideas.
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We’ve heard a lot from Ken over the years about the Integral model (quadrants, levels, lines, states, and types). And we’ve all likely experienced for ourselves the enormous clarity and understanding integral thought can bring to our lives, our inner-worlds, and the many nested realities we find ourselves in.
But this conversation isn’t just about “integral thought”.
It’s also about integral thinking — that is, the kind of thinking that produces things like the Integral model in the first place.
Watch as Ken and Corey explore some of the major qualities of integral thinking at the “vision logic” or “construct aware” stages of development, as well as the three most important principles of integral thinking:
- Everyone is right (nonexclusion)
- Some are more right than others (enfoldment)
- If you want to know this, do that (enactment)
In the final segment, Corey and Ken have a fun discussion about “generation theory” — a useful sort of cultural typology that can help us understand how the very same values (amber, orange, green, teal, etc.) can be expressed somewhat differently from generation to generation due to the ever-changing social pressures in the lower-right quadrant and shared cultural references in the lower-left quadrant that shape each of these generations.
Corey observes that we may be seeing a generational shift away from macroscopic visions (e.g. the view from 50,000 feet) and toward more micro-level applications. Might this shift may actually be placing a healthy pressure upon the integral project to begin turning its attention to these sorts of micro-level solutions and applications?
Fortunately, the integral model has it all covered, precisely because it is so holographic, and generates tremendous value at whatever scale it is being enacted. But this is also an wonderful invitation for all of us to think about some novel ways to explore the integral approach that may be more naturally appealing to younger generations.
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About Ken Wilber
Ken Wilber is a preeminent scholar of the Integral stage of human development. He is an internationally acknowledged leader, founder of Integral Institute, and co-founder of Integral Life. Ken is the originator of arguably the first truly comprehensive or integrative world philosophy, aptly named “Integral Theory”.
About Corey deVos
Corey W. deVos is editor and producer of Integral Life. He has worked for Integral Institute/Integal Life since Spring of 2003, and has been a student of integral theory and practice since 1996. Corey is also a professional woodworker, and many of his artworks can be found in his VisionLogix art gallery.

